So basically, Flash's implementation of Ajax (generic
usage of the term) is faster than, say jQuery's?

Would that be accurate?


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:41 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?


Rick,

Yes we did... and yes it is the flash animation portion...

-Mark


Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
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Skype: markakruger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?


Mark,

Do you create your "financial visualizations" in Flex?
Is it the Flash part of the visualizations that performs
better than AJAX?

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:04 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?


Rick,

I agree with you in large part with one exception. We do a lot of financial
visualizations that would simply gasp and die in Ajax - even if we could
find the proper libraries for them. And it would also be hard to duplicate
the animation, opacity etc. But for 95% of things I'm with you - the
Ajax/jQuery stack has revolutionized things like CRUD forms and data entry
on web pages.

-Mark

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:ric...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:45 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Is Coldfusion losing its biggest asset?


I've spent the past year or two incorporating jQuery
into my programming, mainly the AJAX functionality.
Everything I do (perhaps too much!) uses AJAX.  It's just
become my paradigm for getting info from and onto pages,
working in conjunction with cfc functionality.

I mention this as I wondered about Flex, based on the
comment a few moments ago.  I checked out a few examples
of Flex demos and didn't see anything, on a cursory
look, that I couldn't easily do (or currently do) in jQuery.

Based on the Adobe site's comments, I would have to learn
MXML, ActionScript 3.0, and utilize Flash to build
rich-interface applications.

I can do that now with CF, CSS, and jQuery (totally free
and being developed for cross-platform mobile devices).  (Of course,
Flash adds more interface graphics capabilities...but Flash
is another world unto itself.)

Flex, to me, seems to be a rather "involved" endeavor.

I'm also moving rapidly (preparing, at least) into mobile
development, as I see that as a field about to really explode
with possibility for developers.  I get to return to my current
clients and say "you really need a mobile version of your website,"
and still use just CF, CSS, and jQuery to build mobile sites.

But, I come to this entire conversation as an independent
developer, not as someone looking to be hired by another company,
either for project work or for a part-time or full-time position.
So, the perspective is different than someone seeking to build
up a resume.

Just my .02 ...

Rick









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