I've been using CF for a long time and will be using it until I retire,
because I build things people use and they don't particularly care what
the technology is behind those things they use.

HOWEVER, that is no excuse for Adobe being SO VERY SLACK at promoting their
product, providing tutorials for new users to use to get to know CF,
providing conferences, etc. Yes, CF *may* still be profitable for Adobe,
but it won't take too many more years before that will change as people like
myself decide to migrate to Blue Dragon and cut off yet one more customer
from Adobe.  Too many of those decisions and even hosts will decide CF is not
worth providing.

I like CF and hope to retire before I have to learn anything else. (I'd rather
play softball with my extra time than learn PHP....)

But, as long as Adobe keeps CF on the market, they should support it like
it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.  The only businesses I know that
have a product on the market, yet don't market in every way and to the fullest
extent possible, are those who don't understand marketing in today's media,
or those who are just milking the cow without feeding it to get whatever money
they can for the milk with no more investment in maintaining a healthy thriving
cow. They're just willing to get what they can on their way out of the business
and let the cow survive on its own as long as it can.

I'm not sure, after a decade of watching Adobe, if they're just lazy, ignorant,
or going out of business with CF. Any of the above scenarios fits their 
long-time
approach to marketing CF.

And I've never heard one rational defense of Adobe and its handling of CF that
excuses Adobe lack of attention to CF, from documentation to marketing.

(And understand, that I'm a freelancer, and my business success has never once
depended on how well Adobe has marketed their product, so I'm like an outsider
looking in at those dependent upon Adobe making a name for CF so those of you
who work for others can get hired based on the reputation of CF, which ONLY
Adobe can create...)

Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:47 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


On 3/18/2013 10:05 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:

> I take all of your points on board, but it is still frustrating to be trying
> to sell a product that the manufacturer does not seem particularly
> interested in selling itself - let alone the business model for the product
> being wrong in the first place.

at face value, kind of an absurd statement. what company in the business of 
selling stuff, isn't interested in selling stuff?

i *know* the cf team is trying & cf is still profitable to adobe. but when its 
not they'll likely drop it & i don't find that very worrying. adobe has already 
"dropped" what i thought was a pretty good product (flex). but they dropped it 
in a responsible fashion (into apache's lap, where its ticking along quite 
nicely--the commit stream & people coming out of the woodwork to donate stuff 
to 
it makes me feel all warm & fuzzy).

people have been bemoaning cf's demise for a decade & yet its still here. if 
its 
around for another decade w/adobe fine, if not, that's fine too.





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