Can someone point me to any online articles about NEO?
Bonnie E. Betts
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: Is CF still relevant?
> Joseph,
>
> Great questions. If you asked me 6 months ago, I would answer you by
saying
> that the reason I use CF primarily is because it is a great RAD tool.
> Today, I am thinking about how cool it will be to leverage my CF
experience
> once CF is tied to Flash better (better than Harpoon). The thought of
this
> alone gets my heart racing. A couple of years ago, M$ introduced their
> "Agent" ActiveX component that allowed you to have a little character
(like
> those annoying M$ Office Assistants) that you could script to make talk.
I
> thought that this was pretty neat, but it required a slow download, and
the
> performance was hideous. Also, you were stuck with the characters that M$
> developed. With Flash working better with CF, you could create some
> compelling agents, IM programs, distance learning tools, training
programs,
> and more. There is probably a lot of potential here that we have not
even
> thought of yet. So the Flash potential and also UltraDev's *potential*
> have me excited. Those are my hopes for CF.
>
> My fears are:
>
> - How well will CF be integrated with UltraDev?
> - How well will CF be integrated with Flash? And I don't mean little
> Harpoon calendars.
> - Will MM fix/improve the advanced security features of CF? The
"Users -->
> Groups --> Policies" security model is cludgy.
> - Will MM or Version 5.0 improve/automate remote file management? By
this
> I mean that I would like for CF to allow me to manage files on the server
> much like FrontPage extensions do. You rename a file, and all of the
links
> to the file get renamed. FP is a newbie tool, but this is a HUGE time
saver
> when you have a really big site to manage.
> - Will MM lower the cost of the server? The pro version should cost
> $599.00.
> - How will the real world performance be with the Java-based "NEO" (CF
> version 6.0). I know they say it is faster, but I am just worried.
> - How soon will 5.0 be out? User defined functions and querying a query
> will be awesome. The User defined functions alone will add tremendously
to
> the CF community once you can download custom functions (loan calculators,
> etc.).
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> John McKown, Owner
> Delaware.Net, Inc.
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>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Is CF still relevant?
>
>
> Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This
isn't
>
> so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step
back
>
> and reevalutate things periodically.
>
> Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked
> with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP,
> JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an
> evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of
CF's
> strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't
> have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized
> editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are
> also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively
> small community; etc.
>
> Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house"
> (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF
> skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn
> ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their
> time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or
> another non-CF solution? Why or why not?
>
> And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try
> something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages
> (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating
Systems
>
> (Amiga) have resignedly done?
>
> Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at,
> and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a
> novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is
it
>
> because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the
best
>
> solution for web application development in 2001?
>
> Joe
>
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