I have one more opinion. As web based applications continue to evolve out from pure Internet based applications into Enterprise Intranet and Extranet based applications calling on and interacting with Legacy systems, RECOGNIZED METHODOLOGY = CREDIBILITY. Far too many times products that are nowhere near ColdFusion in excellence are chosen instead of ColdFusion because there is still a perception among "higher-end" developers that ColdFusion is not a serious tool for Enterprise level work. Whether it be pure perception or not I really feel that ColdFusion needs a recognized identifiable methodology to survive and continue to prosper in the face of NET etc. Fusebox lends perceived credibility to ColdFusion and that cannot be bad thing whether you use Fusebox or not.
Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "Prediction is hard, especially when it's about the future." -----Original Message----- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox - opinions? You're right any developer should. Doesn't mean they will be able to. And why bother sitting at a meeting where someone dictates those things to you, you can pop on the web and learn everything you need to know. Methodology is not something you need, I used to be against fusebox because at first glance it's daunting, but once I started using it I haven't gone back. There are literally thousands of people who use fusebox, and I am sure quite a few people who use some of the others, having these little tiffs back and forth do nothing to help coding, fusebox has made a central website where you can get all the information you need to have an out of the box methodology, if you choose to make up your own and teach other people your proprietary methodology, that's fine, more power to you, but I don't have to do that. I know if I need more developers on a project I don't have to waste time teaching them from the ground up, they can learn on their own. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -----Original Message----- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fusebox - opinions? Yes, but any developer worth his salt should be able to pick up a *documented* methodology and work within it given an hour or so to look over the documentation. I was on a project, where the first thing they did was have me sit down with the lead developer. He dictated everything from the directory structure of the project to the casing (I.E. upper / lower case of the letters ) to use for SQL statements. I took notes, and there was never a problem. In addition to a methodology, properly documented code should be easily picked up. At 03:05 PM 11/19/2001 -0500, you wrote: >The problem with making your own methodology up is that only the people you >have taight it to will know it, the benefit of fusebox and any other popular >methodology is that there are support forums, sample applications, and white >papers that you can work off of. > >Robert Everland III >Dixon Ticonderoga >Web Developer Extraordinaire > >-----Original Message----- >From: Zac Belado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:06 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: Fusebox - opinions? > > > > If you are > > looking to try and instill good disciplines and readability in your code > > Fusebox is also good for that. > >This presumes that the developers know fusebox. > >You could also get this same benefit from documenting your methods and >making sure your developers follow a single standard. > >Fusebox doesn't bring anything to development (in these terms) that any >other documented methodology would. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists