Scott,

Given your connections the MS Network and to prove your independence on
this matter would it not make sense to do a joint show and tell and to
get some MS development companies along and we show them what Flex and
CF can do for them whilst you show the .Net stuff? presumably if there
is real value in a .Net / CF partnership then it would also add value
to them.

Whilst some CF guys are very much in one camp it would be fair to say I
have meet a great many of MS developers who strongly believe it's the
only technology out there and maybe it would be good to open their eyes
to the possibilities and benefits of the Adobe product set? As you say,
it wouldn't be a sales pitch but a show and tell that doesn't map
technologies.

It would be really interesting to see hear what your team thinks of
this idea.



Grant



On Jan 25, 11:33 pm, "Allan Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> As with Dale, always willing to look at what else it out there. If I
> didn't try new thing how would I have made it to play(work) with CF.
>
> Allan Browninghttp://www.inov8design.com.au
>
> On Jan 25, 8:05 pm, "Dale Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Yeah,
>
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
>
> >   _____
>
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of M@ Bourke
> > Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 8:58 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
>
> > Think the "Matt" was meant to be "Scott" (just incase anyone was confused)
>
> > On 1/25/07, Dale Fraser < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> > wrote:
>
> > Matt,
>
> > If you do something at the VIC UG I'll come, always interested in looking at
> > new technologies.
>
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
>
> >   _____
>
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke
> > Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 8:52 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
>
> > Adobe do sales pitches for there other products at CF user groups
>
> > If it was simply titled "how to move from CF to Dot net" it would be a bit
> > whacked
> > even though thats probably there secret agenda lol
> > if it's how to use there new technologies with CF I think it would (could)
> > be a good thing for CF devs to attend.
>
> > M@
>
> > On 1/25/07, Andrew Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry Scott but how is this not a sales pitch, this is what you
> > were hired by Microsoft to do...
>
> > On 25/01/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hey Kids,
>
> > > Since the Ted vs Barnes blog thing, I've been getting a lot of emails from
> > > CF`ers of old, who are looking to broaden their horizons somewhat. So with
> > > that in mind, I thought It may be worthwhile to float an idea past you all
> > > and see if it's got legs (since Microsoft haven't been invited to WebDU,
> > > this maybe an alternative approach).
>
> > > I'm thinking of doing a bit of a national tour (need to work out how I can
> > > hide that in terms of expense report(s) heh) but, I'm willing to showcase
> > > some of the new Microsoft goodness that will compliment the average
> > > Coldfusion Developer out there (so make sure its relevant to you guys and
> > > not try and turn you into hardcore ASP.NET developers overnight), while at
> > > the same time answer any questions you might have and debunk a myth or
> > two.
>
> > > Essentially, bring some context back to the conversation that may
> > compliment
> > > the average CF Developer out there as I know it's somewhat confusing as to
> > > how all the Microsoft pieces fit and whether or not they are relevant.
>
> > > Given that Coldfusion 8, is going to have native .NET 
> > > support(http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/10/24/ColdFusion-Net-Integ...
>
> > > ) (cfObject type=".NET" is freakin sexy), this could also be an advantage
> > to
> > > folks who have to play with both .NET and JAVA daily. (So bring an open
> > > mind).
>
> > > I promise, it's not a sales pitch, but a show & tell - that doesn't
> > involve
> > > mapping technology or flicker - that i'll promise ;)
>
> > > Let me know if you're keen (either here or offline, if you fear being
> > labled
> > > a MS Fanboi) and I'll organise some of the MS HQ's (free beer + pizza) and
> > > see if i can bust open the schwag basement and get some give-aways in the
> > > room. It's likely to happen various times in the next two months (Sydney +
> > > BNE in March, and will see if I can find an excuse to be in Melbourne
> > around
> > > then, but won't be in Perth until June - unless I can find another excuse
> > > before hand).
>
> > > I'll also ping some of the other of the MS Team to come along aswell. It's
> > > just an idea at this point, so let me know (seriously) if folks would be
> > > keen.
>
> > > (scbarnes at microsoft.com)
>
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Scott Barnes
> > > Developer Evangelist,
> > > Microsoft.--
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com


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