Bah :) no such thing is a perfectly executed project in software, we are all humans. Flex is RAD initially but it hurts after you want to get deeper into mucking about with the code base. I blame mix-ins to be honest (decorater pattern) as it's quite confusing for the untrained folks.
Secondly, what company is going to say let Jeremy sit on Flex for 6 months to get up to speed on it? I see this quite a lot in the years of doing FLEX, I actually used to get a lot of my work bailing out the "Jeremy's" so it's not isolated :) Personally if both Adobe or Micosoft can't get the "Jeremy''s" of this world up to speed in under 6 months with GUI tier development, we failed. We need to work harder.. On 4/27/07, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So let me get this straight. > > You set an expectation of how long it would take to complete a project in > software you are not familiar with and now your disappointed because your > expectation was not met. > > > Please, spare me... > > > > > > On 27/04/2007, at 2:05 PM, Lucas wrote: > > cool - send one our way, I am sure that you don't need em anymore... > > Oh, I have an old Javascript book here that we don't use anymore, wanna > swap? > > On 4/27/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I got some Flex 3 books i can hand out btw? > > > > On 4/27/07, grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i agree, learning actionscript was like that. adobe/mm just don't do > > good > > > developer cultivation. > > > > > > > > > On 27/04/07, <cfgroupie> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you > > > > hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's > > > > interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. > > > > > > > > I started a project about 2 months ago which was only going to take > > a > > > > few weeks. Without going into a massive post about the project we > > > > found a need to try out some Flex. I was Whoa stoked. We started off > > > > very small a simple form posting to a database. My background is > > > > mainly CF so I tackled Flex like a CF programmer would. It's sad to > > > > say that I totally under estimated the complexity of programming > > Flex. > > > > Now guys/gals, this page was the most BASIC page you could imagine. > > > > > > > > Where I felt Adobe let me down was the fact that all their PR > > > > explained how easy it was to pick up the Flex language. What they > > > > don't tell you is that you REALLY need to know OO and you REALLY > > need > > > > to have a good framework. The lack of examples in which I personally > > > > learn from is so limited that it left me shell shocked. When I > > learned > > > > ColdFusion it was SO much easier. Ben Forta is my friend! And of > > > > course this list bailed me out a number of times. Adobe are > > constantly > > > > pushing the fact that 9x% use flash player and video format is > > taking > > > > off. Then how come Adobe doesn't utlise this and create tutorials on > > > > > > how to use their products!? > > > > > > > > The company I work for is "Huge" and the amount of time that I > > wasted > > > > trying to achieve the most basic results I could have done 10 times > > > > quicker in ColdFusion AND .NET twice over. > > > > > > > > The sad fact of the matter is I will never recommend Flex to any > > > > programmer or company that I deal with again. So I hope that making > > > > Flex open-source will help bridge the massive learning curve that > > > > developers will encounter. > > > > > > > > Flex had so much potential and that I personally feel its fallin > > flat > > > > on its vector based face. > > > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Scott Barnes > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Bjorn Schultheiss > Senior Developer > [image: QDC] > Personalised Communication Power > > Level 2, 31 Coventry St. > South Melbourne 3205, > VIC Australia > > T: +61 3 9674 7400 > F: +61 3 9645 9160 > W: http://www.qdc.net.au > > ((------------This transmission is confidential and intended solely for > the person or organization to whom it is addressed. It may contain > privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipient, you should not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on > it. If you believe you received this transmission in error, please notify > the sender.---------------)) > > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
