Nope, I agree with Geoff and Mark. You actually need reasonable technical 
skills to write code (even crap code) in C++, etc *and* get it to work in a 
public environment... I think the point is that CF is a very easy language to 
code in and many people writing sites using it have little or no programming 
skill or training. To some extent CF is its own worst enemy. Because it *is* 
easy to write a lot of people with strong technical skills will write it off on 
the basis of "if it is that easy it can't be a serious".

Brett
B)


Dale Fraser wrote:
> I don’t agree that ColdFusion has anything to do with it.
> 
>  
> 
> You could just as easily write shit code, in C++, Java or .NET.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dale Fraser
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On 
> Behalf Of *Mark Ireland
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 March 2008 6:14 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: programmer etiquette and writing good CF code
> 
>  
> 
> I agree. Its that problem were we blame the pen for the spelling mistake.
> 
> This also reflects the strengths and weaknesses of coldFusion.
> 
> Because its an easy language people arent learning how to write code 
> with maintenance in mind
> until they actually have to maintain an app someone else knocked out in 
> a hurry.
> 
> 
>>
>>  I've done lots of code reviews where the code was atrocious but the
>>  history behind the project wasn't that the developer didn't care..
>>  more that the company didn't care. There's plenty of times people
>>  have been asked to knock up a prototype -- the equivalent of a couple
>>  of blocks of 2x4 and some big nails -- only to have that prototype
>>  wheeled into production by over eager managers. Most of us want to
>>  have the time to craft something exquisite but very often we're not
>>  given the chance to do so. This is especially a problem in the CF
>>  world where even the most mangled code manages to hang in there with
>>  some degree of functionality.
>>
>>  Standards are great -- but when they're not followed its not always
>>  the developer at fault.
>>
>>  Just thoughts...
>>
>>  -- geoff
>>  http://www.daemon.com.au/
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