Hear Hear to that. Improvement only occurs from one first making mistakes. CARPE DIEM :)
On 26/03/2008, at 9:39 AM, Joel Cass wrote: > > Meh. > > I reckon the best type of programmer is one that accepts the faults of > others (and themselves) and moves on. Nothing is perfect in life and > we > must all accept that. > > I really concur with Geoff's statement as I myself have been in that > position many times over the years. And I have written lots and lots > of > shite code based on shoddy prototypes. And not just in ColdFusion > either. > > But in the end I've learnt a lot and moved on. I don't sit around all > day bagging other peoples' code, that's for sure. Just account for the > extra time in working with legacy code. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes > Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 7:00 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: programmer etiquette and writing good CF code > > > Nope, I agree with Geoff and Mark. You actually need reasonable > technical skills to write code (even crap code) in C++, etc *and* > get it > to work in a public environment... I think the point is that CF is a > very easy language to code in and many people writing sites using it > have little or no programming skill or training. To some extent CF is > its own worst enemy. Because it *is* easy to write a lot of people > with > strong technical skills will write it off on the basis of "if it is > that > easy it can't be a serious". > > Brett > B) > > > Dale Fraser wrote: >> I don't agree that ColdFusion has anything to do with it. >> >> >> >> You could just as easily write shit code, in C++, Java or .NET. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Dale Fraser >> >> >> >> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *On >> Behalf Of *Mark Ireland >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 March 2008 6:14 PM >> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: programmer etiquette and writing good CF > code >> >> >> >> I agree. Its that problem were we blame the pen for the spelling > mistake. >> >> This also reflects the strengths and weaknesses of coldFusion. >> >> Because its an easy language people arent learning how to write code >> with maintenance in mind >> until they actually have to maintain an app someone else knocked out > in >> a hurry. >> >> >>> >>> I've done lots of code reviews where the code was atrocious but the >>> history behind the project wasn't that the developer didn't care.. >>> more that the company didn't care. There's plenty of times people >>> have been asked to knock up a prototype -- the equivalent of a > couple >>> of blocks of 2x4 and some big nails -- only to have that prototype >>> wheeled into production by over eager managers. Most of us want to >>> have the time to craft something exquisite but very often we're not >>> given the chance to do so. This is especially a problem in the CF >>> world where even the most mangled code manages to hang in there with >>> some degree of functionality. >>> >>> Standards are great -- but when they're not followed its not always >>> the developer at fault. >>> >>> Just thoughts... >>> >>> -- geoff >>> http://www.daemon.com.au/ >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> at CarPoint.com.au It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 >> > <http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldw > ide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi > %5F10 > 04813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT> >> >> >> >> >>> > > -- > Brett Payne-Rhodes > Eaglehawk Computing > t: +61 (0)8 9371-0471 > m: +61 (0)414 371 047 > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > w: http://www.yoursite.net.au > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
