Eliseo,

>That's nonsense... there's CF Developers around providing the company
>wanting to do the hiring has enough $$ to persuade someone to come on
>board...

Oh, let's start a new 100+ post discussion on the topic of salaries 
paid by CF development shops - I find that really interesting, 
particularly because everyone here in NZ is talking about the big 
brain-drain, people leaving the country for overseas work, huge
skills shortage etc, and also because I'm running a company myself
for a while now.

Speaking from a New Zealand point of view - it's not much of a surprise, 
with for instance seeing advertisement on seek where "international media"
companies up in Auckland (which is shockingly expensive to live at - even 
with European or US costs of living in mind) are willing to pay 50-65k NZ$
annual salary for an experienced CF/Flex developer. Seriously - you get 
what you ask for. 

Paying someone experienced, who might be even motivated enough to continue
educating him/herself and is maybe even involved in whatever sort of
community 
activities (even if it's "just" reading a mailing list), such a salary 
leads to fluctuation, staff turnover, staff feeling not valued etc. I'm not 
saying that it all comes down to salary, certainly not. But companies can't 
expect to get the super-rockstar developers for such a salary.

I once read an article written by a well-known business consultant here 
in NZ and he was saying it wasn't worth it to pay people higher than average
salaries, it wasn't worth it to give them an annual salary increase exceeding
CPI etc and that his recommendation would be to always get juniors in,
train them up and then - even if they leave after one year - just get
another junior in to replace the person. Seriously - I think it's 
absolutely the wrong approach - but that's me. Yes, a company with a certain
size would need a certain percentage of junior developers to work more
efficiently and to ensure there are new people coming up.

Any opinions - really interested in hearing other people's thoughts!

Please don't flame if you disagree :)

Cheers
Kai



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