IE is pure evil, even IE8 is still pure evil, because every other mainstream browers works the same... IE is just plain quirky, even in 8
IE6 is and old lame duck an simply wasn't designed to handle heavy complex javascript and things like the standard event model don't work ( think jquery live change ) or transparency issues The web would be a much cooler place if we didn't waste so much time on IE6 issues, and we'd all be more productive there was a nice story about Hillary Cinton being asked about the US gov and IE6 and the response from one of the guys was nothing was free. It's mainly senior managers who have allowed the persistant IE6 bit rot, citing the cost of moving, which is laughable for any developers who has worked with modern browsers, because once you escape the IE6 hell, things become easier quicker and more predictable There's always IE tab for FF this debate reminds me of the whole climate change denialists problem z On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Chad Renando<chad.rena...@gmail.com> wrote: > I cringe when I hear the word "just". As a production manager, I hear a lot > of "just" related to IE6 specific "tweaks" (it will 'just' take me an hour > or two), which cumulate to thousands of dollars per year and significant > schedule pain. Yes, in a perfect world IE6 would be managed through perfect > CSS and if/then statements. But our world of plug ins, widgets, third-party > ad-ons and integration with legacy systems is far from perfect. I require > an element of predictability and profitability that IE6 in particular > threatens. > > It takes a significant amount of time to perform a full user test on each > browser, and accommodating the likes of Safari, IE6, IE7, IE8, FF2, FF3, and > Opera can be a 2-day exercise, not too mention if there are issues that > require changes and re-testing. It would be nice to eliminate just one of > the "options" we as a society feel are necessary. > > If I have an option to kill something, IE6 is top of my list. > > Chad > who still lurks on Cold Fusion forums like the bad smell from the lunch your > 6th grade kid forgot in their bag over school holidays > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> > wrote: >> >> Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind >> you and have a look around again thinking "maybe" I can put it to some use >> (jury is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the >> right hand column under "Trending topics" I noticed a topic names "IE6 Must >> die". Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it out and >> noticed some interesting comments like "IE6 must die for the web to move on" >> and "I spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in IE6 to >> Firefox. IE IS EVIL! ". >> >> I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of >> talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and >> developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser. How >> much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility? Is it >> really worth it? In my experience, I would say not a great deal. If you >> stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a >> little and most of if is because of positioning issues. That said, this >> sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically. >> MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have >> there own style of "classic" fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that >> cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a >> pixel perfect layout. At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE >> technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the >> browser. >> >> There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you >> need them as long as you stick to simple standards code. A lot can be >> achieved if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or >> compatibility for the plethora of browsers available. >> >> In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the >> finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust. >> >> Steve >> > > > > > -- Zac Spitzer - http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
