I also think that is what she means by TAB editing.
 
Personally, I think that is an awesome feature that should have been
implemented in every HTML editor by now.
 
I can think of no* reason to put an actual tab character within a tag,
so it makes perfect sense to use a tab to jump between attribute values.
 
* except for formatting tags across multiple lines.
 
M!ke


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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
RADEMAKERS Tanguy
        Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:55 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] RE: DW vs Eclipse


        Teddy,
         
        i think by "TAB editing", Jean is talking about the ability to
use the tab key to jump between regions of code - so you can insert a
snippet of cfml code, say "<cfassociate baseTag="" dataCollection="">"
and then use the tab key to jump into the first attribute value
(baseTag="|"), insert some text, then press tab again to jump into the
second attribute value (dataCollection="|") and insert some text there. 
         
        Jean,
         
        whilst it's true that (cf)eclipse does not yet offer this, the
current workaround is to use variables in snippets: say you define a
snippet like this:
         
        <cf_test foo="$${FOO}" bar="$${BAR}">
         
        when you trigger it, eclipse first pops up a little dialog box
to prompt you for the values of FOO and BAR, then inserts the the
snippet with the placeholders (the "$${...}" bits) replaced with your
input.
         
        You can even use default values:

        <cf_test foo="$${FOO:BAZ}" bar="$${BAR}">
         
        Or lists of values:
        <cf_test foo="$${FOO:BAZ|BOO|BUM}" bar="$${BAR}">
        (quite cool - will use a dropdown to select the value, whilst
still allowing you to override.
         
        ... and there are a number of default snippet variables that
will be auto magically replaced, e.g; $$DATE, etc
         
        Though i am willing to admit that this is not quite as seamless
as tab editing as done by textmate et al. 
         
        Regs,
        /t
         
         
         


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                From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Teddy Payne
                Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:13 PM
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] RE: DW vs Eclipse


                Jean,
                > * The "TAB editing" feature of those 2 editors is one
the best performance
                booster I have seen in years. I have not found any in
Eclipse.
                 
                Eclipse with CFEclipse offers tabbed browsing.
                 
                > * Supported languages: a decent list is at
                http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Bundles/. All
the ones I need are
                there.
                 
                Eclipse has a plugin for the majority of thee languages
as well.  Which languages are on your "list?"
                 
                > * Flex: oh yes, I will resist. In the name of
standards compliance and
                accessibility. And it's not futile.
                 
                Yes, Flash movies currently are not accessible, niether
is Javascript related to AJAX and DHTML.
                 
                lastly, people are just trying to help here and offer
advice and not trying to convert you.  I say use what you are
comfortable with.
                 
                Cheers,
                Teddy
                 
                On 2/9/07, Jean Moniatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

                        Thanks Jim, but no, Eclipse is not for me:

                        * The "TAB editing" feature of those 2 editors
is one the best performance 
                        booster I have seen in years. I have not found
any in Eclipse.
                        * Supported languages: a decent list is at
                        http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Bundles/
. All the ones I need are
                        there.
                        * Flex: oh yes, I will resist. In the name of
standards compliance and
                        accessibility. And it's not futile.

                        Thanks,

                        Jean Moniatte
                        UGAL.net
                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

                        Try UGAL.net at
http://www.ugal.net/createawebsite/


                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cassata
                        Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:56 PM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] RE: DW vs Eclipse 

                        Hello Jean,

                        Eclipse has the benefit of once you get
productive an comfortable (took
                        me a week of harassing the members of this list)
you can use it as an
                        IDE for so many languages. I see now why it was
worth the effort, it is 
                        ultimately more efficient to work with both as a
lone developer and as
                        part of a team. And, as a CF developer, there
will most likely be Flex
                        in your future, and Flex runs best in Eclipse.
Resistance is Futile.

                        Jim

                        --- Jean Moniatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

                        > Hello,
                        >
                        > Simplier situation here: I am the only
developer using my laptop as
                        > my dev
                        > machine. This discussion made me try to switch
from HS to Eclipse. 
                        > BAH. It
                        > is definitely too heavy and feature rich for
what I need to do.
                        >
                        > I have found 2 alternatives, they both
implement tab editing which I
                        > find
                        > very useful:
                        > - http://www.e-texteditor.com/
                        > - http://intype.info/home/index.php
                        >
                        > E-texteditor can use the ColdFusion bundle
that has been developped
                        > for
                        > textmate (available only to mac heads):
                        >
http://macromates.com/svn/Bundles/trunk/Bundles/ColdFusion.tmbundle/
                        >
                        > Hope it helps someone :-) 
                        >
                        > Jean Moniatte
                        > UGAL.net
                        > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        >
                        > Try UGAL.net at
http://www.ugal.net/createawebsite/ 


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