For evaluation, testing configurations, that sort of thing, I can't
recommend Sun's VirtualBox highly enough.  I have used it with both
linux and windows as a host, running windows and linux client systems
without a hiccup.  As you have a beefy processor, lots of RAM and lots
of hard drive, you are already well-equipped.

 - michael dykman

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM, David Vincent-Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have found an approach to the Win/Ubuntu dual-boot that has worked
> well for me for the past 2 years. I use Ubuntu 99.9% of the time; the
> Win side is more of a 'security blanket' that I still drag around.
>
> 1.  I started by creating a Win 98 recovery disk (rather than  using the
> OEM disks that came with my system) and then used the Ubuntu boot disk
> to flush my hard drive then reformat for the MS system.
> 2.  I installed MS '98 from the recovery disk.
> 3.  Used the Ubuntu boot disk to make and re-size the needed partitions
> and then install Ubuntu in the second partition. All very easy.
> 4.  I am now using 'Quickstart' to back-up both my Win and Ubuntu
> partitions onto two rotated external 'Passport' drives. This has proved
> remarkably reliable (as well as painless). When I needed to replace my
> hard drive I was up and running again within a couple of hours without
> any data loss on either side.
>
> For a while I worked with a Win emulator under Ubuntu .. I thought that
> may prove useful .. but found that it had, for me, little benefit.
>
> David
>
> On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 07:42 -0400, David Mitchell wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> I agree with Alex re VPC.  It is a good tool for evaluating a variety of
>> operating systems.  It can help avoid hardware issues, since it emulates 
>> generic
>> hardware in many areas, including the network adapters.  It will not perform 
>> as
>> well as a native install, but with a decent processor, I've found the
>> performance acceptable.
>>
>> I did find installing Linux on the same physical drive as Windows Vista or 7
>> (RC) a bit of a challenge.  Windows seems to see the Linux bootloader as a
>> potential threat and will overwrite it if it is installed after Linux.  The
>> Vista SP also would not install while the Linux bootloader was active in the
>> primary MBR.
>>
>> I discovered I could back up the MBR several times, once with the 
>> Windows-only
>> version and once with the MBR after the Linux install(s) and all partition
>> creation was complete.  I then put copies of the MBR as files on all of the
>> Windows and Linux partitions.
>>
>> Then, I used Linux tools to switch the MBR to the Windows-only MBR for
>> activities like installing the Service Pack and switched back to the Linux 
>> MBR
>> for daily use with multiboot.
>>
>> I strongly recommend backing up all your data before trying this.  You can 
>> make
>> it considerably less risky by using the primary drive for Windows and Linux 
>> OS
>> and paging only and putting all your user data on other physical drives.
>>
>> A less hair raising approach is to install Linux on its own physical drive.  
>> You
>> can create a bootloader CD to start up Linux.  This gives you native Linux
>> performance with no complaints from Windows.  The CD bootloader can also work
>> with an install on the primary drive, but it's a bit trickier to manage.
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> David Mitchell
>>
>> Alex Rufon wrote:
>> > Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > First off, I agree with Oleg, had I the money to burn (I just bought a new 
>> > motorcycle last July and crashed it 3 days later and fractured my right 
>> > foot ... ehem good thing I took a comprehensive insurance) I would invest 
>> > on a Mac. I actually bought a PowerBook before but my Mom wanted it and 
>> > she asked nicely (won't take no for an answer ... hehehe) and she loves it.
>> >
>> > If you haven't partitioned your computer and your machine has lots of RAM, 
>> > I would suggest installing it on a virtual machine first. You can either 
>> > use Microsoft Virtual PC and Sun's VirtualBox, both of these software's 
>> > are FREE. Although I would suggest VirtualBox over the Virtual PC for a 
>> > bunch of reasons. You see, most of my friends who tried out Linux end up 
>> > destroying their windows partition or not being able to boot back into 
>> > windows. Particularly if you have more that 1 internal hard drives and not 
>> > familiar with Linux device naming convention. Also, depending on how 
>> > powerful your PC, trying it out first in a Virtual Machine would let you 
>> > use your computer on other tasks while installing, patching, or just plain 
>> > mucking around with linux. Afterwards, when your really comfortable with 
>> > the new OS, then that's the time you go the plunge and install it on 
>> > physical partition. BTW, I've met a lot of people who doesn't like the 
>> > Gnome desktop. You do have an alternative lik
>  e
>>  KD
>> >  E and XFE but I'm suggesting that you give Gnome a chance first ... 
>> > there's a lot of customisation that you can do with it. Actually, my 
>> > desktop right now looks pretty much like Aqua/Mac.
>> >
>> > Since your using Ubunutu, I would assume that you got the 64bit version 
>> > (you have to select it at the option box in the Ubuntu download website 
>> > otherwise you'll get the 32 bit version). Also, I would suggest that you 
>> > visit this site and at least read up on some of its suggestions:
>> > http://ubuntuguide.org
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > r/Alex
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> > Mark Deardorff [[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:10 PM
>> > To: Chat forum
>> > Subject: Re: [Jchat] [Jgeneral] J64 on OpenSUSE 11.1 64bit OS (WAS: RE: 
>> > [Jbeta] 602 ebeta available for linux32 and linux64)
>> >
>> > Thanks everyone. Sorry Oleg, I have already invested in PC hardware and
>> > cannot afford the Mac iron. I have the Ubuntu disk and will boot from it to
>> > do some partition work before I install it.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:36 AM, David Mitchell 
>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>> >
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