Action without defense is the complete lack of confidence.

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Jim Isaacs



On Oct 8, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Zachary Krebs wrote:

> I can see that there is very little receptivity around this topic. That is 
> fine. I would suggest that instead of using your brain like a hammer to 
> approach every issue, consider how this might feel to someone. As we have 
> also learned, the mind is not the only source of intelligence. Looking at 
> things with open perceptive lenses, we can see faults and correct them, 
> without defending our actions. Its easy to twist logic to support something, 
> but its harder to understand and trust others.
> Sincerely,
> 
> Zachary Krebs
> 
> Voice:(541) 708-1163
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> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Max Countryman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think your accusations are a bit of a red herring: As we have well learned 
> by now, a symbol is not the object it represents. However you're attempting 
> to assert the representation is the object and is therefore objectionable, 
> this is a logical fallacy.
> 
> If you care about the history of native peoples, spend your time and energy 
> enriching that culture rather than detracting from relatively unrelated 
> software projects which neither detract from nor otherwise frame native 
> ethnography.
> 
> On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Zachary Krebs wrote:
> 
>> Please consider removing it or changing it. For some context, there is a 
>> huge dispute in N. America about people using Native American 
>> symbols/logos/caricatures in popular culture to demean or otherwise 
>> insinuate that indigenous people are fast, quirky, half-witted, lesser-than, 
>> etc. The entire idea of naming web servers after Native People (for no 
>> reason) and then having logos from their cultural background makes little 
>> sense. Perhaps you could consider redesigning your logo to use something 
>> other than a caricature of a person? Also posted this to the Hiawatha forum, 
>> which has a similar issue.
>> 
>> http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/forum/topic/686
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Zachary Krebs
>> 
>> Voice:(541) 708-1163
>> Skype: ZacharyKrebs
>> 
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