Hi Dale, How are you finding which muffler comes with which kit? I checked out the links you posted, but I'm still wondering how you found them. When I cruise around their site, I don't see where the info is listed.
I am looking at the Chevy application chart, and the 2 kits are listed on the same line. The 52456 (5-inch 50 series) is highlighted by a black block with white type, so I was assuming that this means that these are the mufflers that come with both kits. Also, I have been checking other catalogs and have seen the 17119 listed saying that it comes with 50 series mufflers. Also, in my phone calls with them, I do believe they said that both kits come with 50 series mufflers. I'll have to check it out tomorrow because they are closed for the day. John Nasta -----Original Message----- The wheelbase (for 1967's anyway) is 115" for all models. I think it's the 68 and up that the wagon/Elky is 4" longer (116" vs. 112") so for a pre-68 Elky or wagon, would you need the longer 17120 kit? Since the kits are really ~universal~ GM A-body from 64-72, it would behoove the buyer to be aware of the wheel base of their car <g> before ordering to ensure they get a kit that will fit. The mufflers are not even the same - at least according to the FlowMaster website. The muffler numbers were taken straight off their website. I went to What's New and did a search on the two kits. The 17119 kit shows all the parts at http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868eda897 63744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=319&highlight=17119 The 17120 kit shows all its parts at http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868ed a89763744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=318&highlight=17120 clearly showing different mufflers. Let's see...the $30 less expensive kit ($299 vs. $329) has $60 more in muffler costs ($109x2=$218 vs. $80x2=$160) so the longer (albeit different) pipes and the stainless steel tips (which may be correct for 68 and up ?) cars costs $88 more in the long run? The $30 difference would make more sense if both kits had the same mufflers, but again, according to their website, they don't have the same mufflers. Am I missing something here or have the parts included in the kits been changed and the website (plus their .PDF catalog file) does not reflect what is really included? Dale > My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in > price. Not so. The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299) are > almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the 52558 > mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the > muffler). For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get > mufflers costing $160. Strange (???). > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount > > Very interesting. One thing I do know is that the El Camino / Wagon frame > has a 4" longer wheelbase. So, the 17119 would be too short for an El > Camino, and the part that is meant to go over the rear axle wouldn't > clear. > The 17120 kit can be made to fit the 2dr Chevelle / Malibu by cutting 4" > off > of the H-pipe. > > The H-pipes are different because they are different lengths. The > tailpipes > are different because one is made to exit the side and the other the rear. > The 11720 tailpipes also come with stainless steel tips already welded on. > Therefore the only thing that the 11719 and 11720 have in common is the 50 > series mufflers. > > John Nasta > > > > -----Original Message----- > ----------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
