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John Nasta wrote:

> Very interesting. One thing I do know is that the El Camino / Wagon frame
> has a 4" longer wheelbase. So, the 17119 would be too short for an El
> Camino, and the part that is meant to go over the rear axle wouldn't clear.
> The 17120 kit can be made to fit the 2dr Chevelle / Malibu by cutting 4" off
> of the H-pipe.
>
> The H-pipes are different because they are different lengths. The tailpipes
> are different because one is made to exit the side and the other the rear.
> The 11720 tailpipes also come with stainless steel tips already welded on.
> Therefore the only thing that the 11719 and 11720 have in common is the 50
> series mufflers.
>
> John Nasta
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> John/All,
>
> I was looking at the Flowmaster site and found a couple of interesting
> things.  I would have thought that the kits from the engine back to the
> over-the-axle pipe would be the same and only the extensions (tail
> pipes) would be different.  I put the 17119 kit on my 67 SS and had
> pipes to either come out behind the rear tire (like factory) or extend
> to the rear bumper.
>
> I wondered why the 17119 kit was so much less expensive than the 17120
> (Elky/Wagon) kit.  It seems that ~almost none~ of the pipes or mufflers
> are the same - not even the pipes going back to the rear axle.  The
> 17119 kit comes with 30 series mufflers (52533) while the 17120 kit
> comes with 50 series mufflers (52558).  The exhaust extension pipes,
> H-pipe, over-the-axle, everything is different.  Is there that much
> difference between coupe/convertible and Elky/wagon frames that the
> front half of the exhaust is so different?  Guess I just never noticed
> before.
>
> My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in
> price.  Not so.  The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299) are
> almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the 52558
> mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the
> muffler).  For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get
> mufflers costing $160.  Strange (???).
>
> Dale McIntosh
>
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