Happy New Year All!!
I don't write very often but I've learned quite a bit from everyone on the list and regarding this particular subject I thought I'd add my 2cents...
I worked as a mehanic for over 20years and in my own experience except for a "dark age" in the mid 70's and early 80's American automobiles in general are comparable to anything on the market now. The only thing I found to make a difference in any car's life is general maintenance. By that I mean if you take care of it, it will take of you. I now work in the high tech end of automobiles (electronic controls) in Customer Quality Engineering and have learned that newer automobiles regardless of brand have various "new age" problems. By the way I traded my 2000 Supercharged Silverado (60,000 miles and still going STRONG!) for a new 2003 Dodge Hemi Quad Cab (Just took delivery 12/31!) because I like the engine and it's capabilities. I've had all brands and various years previously usually dependent on my needs at a particular point in life in the end it comes down to being a car guy/gal that count's....

John
'67 SS427

Wayne wrote:

Happy New year Graig. I  was just  quoting ,what Art Houser aka "The Rear Man" Had to say about Dodge 1500 and 2500 trucks with diesel engines. Wayne
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Non Chevelle (Hemi)
 Boy, that one's new to me. I've owned three Dodge pickups in a row (94, 97, 98) and never had a problem or heard of one. I'll ask my neighbor - he's an engineering manager in powertrain on the PU platform.Eman
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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Non Chevelle (Hemi)
 
Interesting Thread.  Only  one thing I have to add regarding the DODGE Truck . is it's REAR. A local guy who own a rear end service shop " The Rear Man "  every time he see or hears a dodge diesel he make a cash regester sound.Why he calls it his job security, fixes alot of them. ????
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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Non Chevelle (Hemi)
 Well, I will say I am far from what you would call a complete Chevy guy. I'm more of Pontiac guy at heart, but appriciate just about anything on the road including imports. I agree that Gm needs to get into the market share... they kill the f-body and they have always lagged way behind in truck technology. Is it just me or did anyone else wonder what Gm was thinking using a TBI type injection system on their trucks from 1987 all the way till 1995? I mean Ford had a port type injection availible in 1985! Dodge does have some good prices and such, but their warranty procudures aren't any better then GM, Ford, Honda, or whoever really. Our shop owns a new Dodge and I also am good friends with a service writer at a local dealer and their system is as hassle filled as anyones from my knowledge. I'm very hesitant to jump on this big dodge bandwagon... it seems like it is just like back in 1994 when the new body style came out... what happened? Opps... trannys and tranfer case problems galore! Took Dodge to about 1997 to get control of the problem and still have less then the strongest drivetrain. I also will say that outside the Cummins and MAYBE the hemi... their engines aren't much IMO. The 318 is a dog and the 360 sucks gas down like a mutha. Also I don't know how many people work with cars and service at a general auto facility, but I do and have for 5 years, thus I have a very differnt view then what many people have when they judge the quality of a vehicles design and construction. I see more dodge trucks then any other truck and in my shop's area more people own gm's then anything. I'll wait a few years to see if the Hemi is another engine that isn't quite as good as it sounds on paper... examples being the neon 4 cylinder and the lovely 3.5 V6's Dodge offers... I love the fact they say the word Hemi and half the car enthusiast marker is all over it. I'll never buy a first year motor cause they always have problems (sometimes minor... many times major). I'm not trying to flame or insult anyone who likes them, drives, them, bought one, whatever... I'mn just trying to present a different angle of looking at things. I am definetly not getting into a Gm v.s. Dodge war or questioning somoeone owning a chevelle cause that is dumb. You can own a Chevelle and not be a GM guy... just like you can own a mustang or a charger, or even a honda and be a GM lover. I see vehicles in a whole different way since I work on them. When I go to buy a vehicle I focus more on the quality and reliability. Most people out there unfortunetly don't. Then they have the nerve to whine about their $30,000-35,000 truck or ute breaking and it costing 800 or whatever to fix like it is my fault their credit is maxed out and you bought something that has numerous design flaws causing early repairs. It is a shame too cause you would think for that kind of money you could get a quality product. Heck there are still a lot of people out there that don't even make that much in a year. Mikey

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