The emphasis here should be on the part of Dasha's statement that says "if they are producing bigger chis". We are not producing bigger chis when we use bigger mommas. We are bringing the size down with the male. The "produced pups" are falling within the size standard...and if they don't, we probably keep them to breed, lol.
I feel this is going to end up leading to an argument and I am not one to argue. I am more than happy to educate or share my oppinions, but I am not one to argue. You all know me, you know my ethics and you know my integrity....I will let it all stand on my reputation...but I will not argue about it. Whether none breeders agree with it or not, it is still a common practice in the breeding community. Maybe it is a secret common practice, but common none the less. Marsha > exactly the point I've been trying to make. your message is more > concise, Thank you. > > > --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: dasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] How Many Pups Can A Chihuahua Have In A >> Litter? To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:46 PM >> Well I understand what you are saying, what I am saying is >> that a breeder >> can't be breeding to improve the breed if they are >> producing bigger chi's >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:11 PM >> To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] How Many Pups Can A Chihuahua >> Have In A Litter? >> >> and what are they disqualified from? SHOWS. They are not >> disqualified from >> being chis, lol. Many people on this group have bigger >> chis, and they are >> still chis...they are just not permitted to be shown. But >> all this >> conversation comes about from my mentioning that breeders >> often use larger >> than 6 pound females to breed...for safety reasons.....the >> pups they try to >> produce are under 6 pounds, but the momma's are often >> over. This is a pretty >> normal practice among breeders. I messed up when I said it >> was a standard >> practice...and the word standard was misunderstood to mean >> was the breed >> standard. I meant the word standard to mean normal. >> Marsha >> >> >> > AKC standared says size is "not to exceed 6 >> pounds. Any dog over 6 >> > pounds is disqualified." >> > Stefanie >> > >> > --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >> > From: dasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] How Many Pups Can A >> Chihuahua Have In A >> > Litter? To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com >> > Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 7:25 AM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks for the info. I was always under the impression >> that the breed >> > standard was set at 5 pounds. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] >> > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] org >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:23 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com >> > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] How Many Pups Can A >> Chihuahua Have In A >> > Litter? >> > >> > no, not realy. I mean 5 pounds will be bred by most >> breeders if that >> > is what they have...it isn't considered too >> small....but a whole lot >> > of our breeding females are more in the 6 to 8 pound >> range. Even if >> > you look at the dame of a lot of show dogs, you will >> find the dames >> > are over the 6 pound limit. Good breeders often use >> larger females and >> > smaller males to bring the pup size down with the >> male, but assure a >> > safe delivery with the female. I'm not sayimg all >> the breeding females >> > are this big, but it is not at all unusual. Also, if >> you look at the >> > champion pedigrees of many pups, you will find the >> majority of the >> > champions are on the sires side....this is because >> often the females >> > being used are bigger than allowed in shows. It is >> simply a safety >> measure. >> > >> > Marsha >> > >> >> I thought the standard for breeding was 5 pounds >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] org >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:26 PM >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com >> >> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] How Many Pups Can A >> Chihuahua Have In A >> >> Litter? >> >> >> >> I am not sure how big Cindy's Cowdog is, but >> my Cayenne is about 6 >> >> pounds.Cowdog maybe a little bigger, but no, not >> much. They are >> >> pretty standard is sizes for what most of us use >> for breeding.... . >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >>> Wow! 7 and 14 pups! How big is Cayenne >> and Cindy's momma Chi? Are >> >>> they big Chihuahuas? >> >>> Stefanie >> >>> >> >>> --- On Mon, 11/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] org >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] org> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] org> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] How Many Pups Can A >> Chihuahua Have In A >> >>> Litter? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com >> >>> Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 9:01 PM >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> That doesn't make a lot of >> sense....Cayenne gave birth to seven pups >> >>> almost 3 months ago.....and if I am not >> mistaken, Cindy's chi had 14 >> >>> two years ago.....sounds like maybe we need to >> report births more >> >>> then, lol Marsha >> >>> >> >>>> The answer is here ! Enjoy....... >> ......... ......... .... 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