So, I decided on Blue tonite at the pet store. Did I do okay for now? The very sad thing is I realized I spent $18 on a small bag of food and I balk at the idea of paying $2.89 lb for hamburger for my family's dinner. I think I just became one of "those people" I always told myself I'd never be. It's true, never say never, cause God's got an amazing sense of humor. Seriously, though, is it more cost effective/healthier if I just cooked for them? Peace, Angela Mose Pray, Hope and Don't Worry- St Padre Pio
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, dasha <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Why wait till they are 7 months old? Just curious > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *ann banks > *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:32 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] Another question... > > *I have always fed my chi's Science Diet Small Kibble for small puppies > but will change them soon as they will soon be 7 months old. Time flies.* > > *Ann > * > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Deanna Corey <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> For me I would not feed Royal Canin...chicken meal is not a clean source >> of protein as it is a rendered product...and as such dead,dying and diseased >> animals can be used... >> There are other ingredients I would not feel comfortable with. The second, >> third, and forth ingredients are rice, brown rice and oats...way too much >> grain content for me as well as chemicals instead of real food. Also the use >> of Rosemary has been questioned as it is a toxin...I would not ever feed >> royal Canin, especially to small dogs. There are so many other better foods >> out there. But this is just my opinion! >> >> *Chicken meal*, according to the Association of American Feed Control >> Officials<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Feed_Control_Officials> >> (AAFCO), >> is the dry >> rendered<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendering_(food_processing)> product >> from a combination of clean chicken<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken> >> flesh >> and skin with or without accompanying bone, derived from whole carcasses of >> chicken, exclusive of feathers, heads, feet and >> entrails.[1]<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-Dog_Food_Project-0> >> A *meal* in general is "an ingredient which has been ground or otherwise >> reduced in particle >> size."[2]<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-aafco_fim-1> >> >> Chicken meal is ground up chicken meat that has been carefully dried to a >> moisture level of *10%*. The protein content is *65%* and the fat level >> is *12%*. Regular chicken contains about 70% water with 18% protein and >> 5% fat. To create chicken meal, ingredients are placed into large vats and >> cooked. >> [3]<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-2> >> This >> rendering process not only separates fat and removes water to create a >> concentrated protein product, it also kills bacteria, viruses, parasites and >> other organisms. Because meat can be rid of infectious agents through the >> rendering process, “4D” animals (dead, dying, diseased or disabled) are >> allowable chicken meal ingredients. While not always present, the possible >> inclusion of these ingredients makes chicken meal always considered unfit >> for human >> consumption.[<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-3> >> 4<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-3> >> ]<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-3> >> >> >> Ingredients for royal canin, chihuahua >> >> Chicken meal, rice, brown rice, oatmeal, soy protein isolate, chicken fat, >> natural chicken flavor, dried egg product, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), >> pea fiber, anchovy oil (source of EPA/DHA), potassium chloride, soya oil, >> sodium silico aluminate, fructo-oligosaccharides, sodium tripolyphosphate, >> DL-methionine, taurine, calcium carbonate, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol >> acetate (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin supplement, >> L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calcium pantothenate, >> biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement >> (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic >> acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], choline chloride, >> marigold extract (Tagetes erecta L.), Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc >> oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper >> sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], glucosamine >> hydrochloride, L-carnitine, tea (green tea extract), chondroitin sulfate, >> rosemary extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of >> vitamin E) and citric acid. >> >> T >> Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! >> Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: >> Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >> From the mountains of CA >> >> http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 >> >> On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Someone wrote earlier that Chihuahuas need puppy food longer than other >> breeds. It is just the opposite. Chihuahuas can start adult food at 8 >> months. The larger breeds need puppy food longer because their growing >> stage is longer also. >> >> As I said, I feed Royal Canin Chihuahua…and I just looked at the bag and >> it confirmed that is for Chihuahuas 8 months and older. Puppy food has a >> lot of added calories and fat that puppies need to grow. If you keep your >> Chihuahua on puppy food too long, you are not doing it any favors as the >> added fat and calories can cause heart problems and joint problems later in >> life. >> >> Desi was already a little ‘hefty’ as my vet said; the vet had me put him >> on adult food at 4 months and it still took another 6 months to get the fat >> off of him. He is doing well, has more energy than Dolly ever had and grew >> well with the puppy food. Perhaps you should check with your vet to see >> what he/she believes is the proper age to change the food to adult food. >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Joan Croft >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:14 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [Chihuahuas] Another question...<[email protected]> >> >> >> >> I have Dolly & Desi on Royal Canin Chihuahua food. >> >> Royal Canin has a small puppy food also…I was feeding Desi that when he >> was little. >> >> The only time that mine have stomach issues is when they are at someone >> else’s house and eat the food that they have left out for their dogs. >> >> Dolly had serious colitis as a baby and so she was on Science Diet ID and >> a little canned puppy food, but when she was old enough to be on adult food >> and her stomach had been doing well, I put her on the RC. I knew that it >> had a money back guarantee if she didn’t like it. >> >> Dolly loves it; Desi loves it….Desi loves anything that he can eat! >> >> My vet says that I shouldn’t change a thing because they are both doing so >> well on it. The RC Chihuahua has everything that the Chihuahua needs…stuff >> for their coats, their hearts, their more sensitive tummies, and for their >> joints. >> >> I know others feed other food; but I just have to say that RC Chihuahua >> has been excellent for my two. The kibble is very small also, and quite >> easy to chew (although Desi refuses to chew his food!) >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Angela Mose >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 8:45 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [Chihuahuas] Another question... <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> I am wondering what would be the best diet to wean our new chis to? The >> breeder starts them on Science Diet, then for some reason, she switches to >> Puppy Chow. I think she said it was because some of her pups were have >> stomach upset. I was thinking of using Royal Canin eventually, but I need >> some input form you much more seasoned chi parents. I know that RC is very >> expensive and I'm not sure if it is really the best diet for them or not. I >> have read that because chis are so small that it is vital for them to get as >> much useable nutrition as possible for their small stomachs. I also have >> read that they need frequent small meals, but I'm not sure about free choice >> feeding because I do want to be able to housebreak them. Any pratical >> guidance would be appreciated, as I want to get off on the best foot >> possible. See, my big dog is very low maintance. The only thing he can eat >> is a lamb and rice diet because anything else just runs through him, >> especially the food he steals off of the 3 yr old's plate. You'd think that >> after eight years he would realize that food in bowl good, food not in bowl, >> bad. Oh, well. At least he (big Alex) is a rescue dog. I would have liked to >> adopt a chihuahua, but, they are scarce around here. >> >> Thank you so much for all of the help allready. >> >> Peace and Blessings to you all, >> >> Angela M >> >> > > > -- > > Ann > > >
