HI Angela! Deanna is the expert on raw and cooked foods, you may want to start a new thread so everyone can find it and ask her.
Bet you can't wait until you have them home! Peggy -------Original Message------- From: Angela Mose Date: 2/11/2011 12:53:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Another question... So, I decided on Blue tonite at the pet store. Did I do okay for now? The very sad thing is I realized I spent $18 on a small bag of food and I balk at the idea of paying $2.89 lb for hamburger for my family's dinner. I think I just became one of "those people" I always told myself I'd never be. It's true, never say never, cause God's got an amazing sense of humor. Seriously, though, is it more cost effective/healthier if I just cooked for them? Peace, Angela Mose Pray, Hope and Don't Worry- St Padre Pio On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, dasha <[email protected]> wrote: Why wait till they are 7 months old? Just curious From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ann banks Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Another question... I have always fed my chi's Science Diet Small Kibble for small puppies but will change them soon as they will soon be 7 months old. Time flies. Ann On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Deanna Corey <[email protected]> wrote: For me I would not feed Royal Canin...chicken meal is not a clean source of protein as it is a rendered product...and as such dead,dying and diseased animals can be used... There are other ingredients I would not feel comfortable with. The second, third, and forth ingredients are rice, brown rice and oats...way too much grain content for me as well as chemicals instead of real food. Also the use of Rosemary has been questioned as it is a toxin...I would not ever feed royal Canin, especially to small dogs. There are so many other better foods out there. But this is just my opinion! Chicken meal, according to the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO), is the dry rendered product from a combination of clean chicken flesh and skin with or without accompanying bone, derived from whole carcasses of chicken, exclusive of feathers, heads, feet and entrails.[1] A meal in general is "an ingredient which has been ground or otherwise reduced in particle size."[2] Chicken meal is ground up chicken meat that has been carefully dried to a moisture level of 10%. The protein content is 65% and the fat level is 12%. Regular chicken contains about 70% water with 18% protein and 5% fat. To create chicken meal, ingredients are placed into large vats and cooked. [3] This rendering process not only separates fat and removes water to create a concentrated protein product, it also kills bacteria, viruses, parasites and other organisms. Because meat can be rid of infectious agents through the rendering process, 4D animals (dead, dying, diseased or disabled) are allowable chicken meal ingredients. While not always present, the possible inclusion of these ingredients makes chicken meal always considered unfit for human consumption.[4] Ingredients for royal canin, chihuahua Chicken meal, rice, brown rice, oatmeal, soy protein isolate, chicken fat, natural chicken flavor, dried egg product, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), pea fiber, anchovy oil (source of EPA/DHA), potassium chloride, soya oil, sodium silico aluminate, fructo-oligosaccharides, sodium tripolyphosphate, DL-methionine, taurine, calcium carbonate, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], choline chloride, marigold extract (Tagetes erecta L.), Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], glucosamine hydrochloride, L-carnitine, tea (green tea extract), chondroitin sulfate, rosemary extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E) and citric acid. T Wagging Tails in the Dog Park! Deanna and the Dog Park Gang: Nugget, Shuai Li, Mable, Mouse, Myrtle, Madison, Caleb and Maxine >From the mountains of CA http://swlf.lilyslim.com/v3T7m8.png?h9j6wId9 On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote: Someone wrote earlier that Chihuahuas need puppy food longer than other breeds. It is just the opposite. Chihuahuas can start adult food at 8 months. The larger breeds need puppy food longer because their growing stage is longer also. As I said, I feed Royal Canin Chihuahua and I just looked at the bag and it confirmed that is for Chihuahuas 8 months and older. Puppy food has a lot of added calories and fat that puppies need to grow. If you keep your Chihuahua on puppy food too long, you are not doing it any favors as the added fat and calories can cause heart problems and joint problems later in life. Desi was already a little hefty as my vet said; the vet had me put him on adult food at 4 months and it still took another 6 months to get the fat off of him. He is doing well, has more energy than Dolly ever had and grew well with the puppy food. Perhaps you should check with your vet to see what he/she believes is the proper age to change the food to adult food. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Croft Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Another question... I have Dolly & Desi on Royal Canin Chihuahua food. Royal Canin has a small puppy food also I was feeding Desi that when he was little. The only time that mine have stomach issues is when they are at someone elses house and eat the food that they have left out for their dogs. Dolly had serious colitis as a baby and so she was on Science Diet ID and a little canned puppy food, but when she was old enough to be on adult food and her stomach had been doing well, I put her on the RC. I knew that it had a money back guarantee if she didnt like it. Dolly loves it; Desi loves it .Desi loves anything that he can eat! My vet says that I shouldnt change a thing because they are both doing so well on it. The RC Chihuahua has everything that the Chihuahua needs stuff for their coats, their hearts, their more sensitive tummies, and for their joints. I know others feed other food; but I just have to say that RC Chihuahua has been excellent for my two. The kibble is very small also, and quite easy to chew (although Desi refuses to chew his food!) From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela Mose Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 8:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Chihuahuas] Another question... I am wondering what would be the best diet to wean our new chis to? The breeder starts them on Science Diet, then for some reason, she switches to Puppy Chow. I think she said it was because some of her pups were have stomach upset. I was thinking of using Royal Canin eventually, but I need some input form you much more seasoned chi parents. I know that RC is very expensive and I'm not sure if it is really the best diet for them or not. I have read that because chis are so small that it is vital for them to get as much useable nutrition as possible for their small stomachs. I also have read that they need frequent small meals, but I'm not sure about free choice feeding because I do want to be able to housebreak them. Any pratical guidance would be appreciated, as I want to get off on the best foot possible. See, my big dog is very low maintance. The only thing he can eat is a lamb and rice diet because anything else just runs through him, especially the food he steals off of the 3 yr old's plate. You'd think that after eight years he would realize that food in bowl good, food not in bowl, bad. Oh, well. At least he (big Alex) is a rescue dog. I would have liked to adopt a chihuahua, but, they are scarce around here. Thank you so much for all of the help allready. Peace and Blessings to you all, Angela M -- Ann
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