I disagree with you regarding the support issue. They
could call the MCSE 2000 people :-)
I just want to see where they want to go with this routing idea. John
Chambers mentioned during an interview that he is aware that Microsoft might
hurt Cisco routing business in the future.
I know that MS Routing and Remote Access team is making huge investiments on
these Routing features.
>From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Billy Monroe"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Microsoft 'Routers'
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:57:34 -0700
>
>Assuming one wants to use MS products as routers, the same concern applies
>-
>what is the box capable of supporting? Are there cards for real WAN
>routing?
>Or is this just another cheap routers for use on LAN segments?
>
>And of course, there is always the issue of support. Who ya gonna call 3:00
>a.m. Sunday when your mission critical network is down?
>
>Chuck
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>David
>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:47 AM
>To: Billy Monroe
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Microsoft 'Routers'
>
>FYI, unix has also had routing capabilities inherent in the operating
>system, as well as software for BGP, OSPF, RIP and friends in free
>software like routed/gated since the beginning of the Internet. But,
>would I ever use any unix box for a router? Not unless it was five
>years ago, it was linux, and I was starting up an ISP with pocket
>change. That was the trend while companies were out there providing
>descent T-1/ISDN/PRI/Frame Relay cards and drivers for Linux x86
>machines. The good thing about this setup, is that Linux can route a
>full T-1 without any trouble using aging 486 hardware (ie: very very
>dirt cheap router... $50?). But what's that , you want to route a
>DS-3? Unlikely. I don't know anyone that makes DS-3/HSSI cards for
>PCs. Anyone want to jump in on that?
>
>But, I've never trusted Windows NT/98 etc to do any routing, unless I
>wanted it to crash all the time -- and no I'm really not wanting to
>start a discussion about which is better or anything. I'd be interested
>to see how much microsoft has cleaned it up in 2000. I really have a
>lot of hope for this OS in terms of functions (ie: active directory) and
>hopefully a newfound stability.
>
>In general any PC is not built for high speed routing. There will be
>hardware architecture limitations to it's performance. Also, since the
>operating systems are so bloated (compared to something streamlined for
>routing like IOS), and running tons of applications at the same time --
>unless you have a dedicated box -- a server will have a lot of other
>things to do other then route packets. If you have no needs for real
>performance, perhaps you could use a windows platform as a router, but
>considering the resource needs of Windows in terms of hardware, you'd be
>better off buying a real router instead.
>
>There is an interesting Linux mini-distribution out there called LRP, or
>The Linux Router Project. It's a linux OS that fits onto a floppy (or
>it did at least) and has full capabilities for routing and other things
>like firewalling I'd assume. I haven't looked at it for a long time.
>
>It's at http://www.linuxrouter.org although the server doesn't appear to
>be accepting connections right now. hmmm, I hope it's not running on a
>LRP distribution hahaha.
>
>David
>
>
>Billy Monroe wrote:
> >
> > I see that Microsoft has provided resources to configure OSPF and RIP in
> > Windows 2000 servers
> > to provide routing capabilities.
> >
> > Has anybody evaluate this ? Do you think this could substitute 'real'
> > routers ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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