We are using a Kentrox DS1 D-Serv using ESF and B8ZS.  Before they ran their
last test on Friday I specifically asked them to check that sort of thing. 
Perhaps that turned out to be the cause and they were just too embarrassed
to tell me. <g>

>  Your LBO should be set to 0db.  Do not change that.  Put a line loop up
on
>  your csu/dsu and test to that.  If you run patterns to the loop clean,
then
>  you likely have a good csu.  If you are not comfortable testing your csu,
>  swap it out and use a new one.   What kind of are you using?  It sounds
as
>  if there might be some misoptioning on some equipment somewhere - could
be
>  in telco land.  Ask telco how provisioning designed the ckt.  Is it
optioned
>  esf/b8zs, d4/b8zs, esf/ami, etc.
>  
>  Makeeda
>  
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>  > John Neiberger
>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:05 PM
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Cc: Dingeldey, Michael
>  > Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Telco Line Problems
>  >
>  >
>  > My guess is that yest, it is the fault of USWorst, but proving it is
>  > difficult in this case.  :-(
>  >
>  > The demarc is on the second floor of a supermarket on one side of the
>  > building, while the extended demarc is on the bottom floor,
>  > opposite side of
>  > the building.  LBO is set to 0db.  Perhaps I should change this?  That
is
>  > one option that hadn't occured to me yet.  If that were the case,
though,
>  > wouldn't be experience problems all the time?  Hmm...if the signal is
>  > getting dangerously low, I suppose if there were some sort of
intermittent
>  > interference in the building, that might cause the symptoms we're
>  > experiencing.  Food for thought!
>  >
>  > Thanks for the tips!
>  >
>  > John Neiberger, CCNA/CCDA
>  >
>  > >  Hmm.... and it's not the fault of USWorst?
>  > >
>  > >  A couple of things come to mind -
>  > >  You may in fact have a bad CSU; can you replace it with another unit
>  > >  and see what happens? How far are you from your demarc (where the
line
>  > >  enters the building)? And how is your line build-out set? Are
>  > you running
>  > >  hot?
>  > >
>  > >  BTW - what haven't they replaced? I have had arguments in the past
>  > >  with Telcos and providers who swear that their equipment is
>  > not at fault.
>  >
>  > >  Once they finally replace their equipment (usually their line
>  > interface),
>  > >  everything works fine.
>  > >
>  > >  HTH - that's my $.02
>  > >
>  > >  Mike Dingeldey
>  > >
>  > >  -----Original Message-----
>  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > >  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:11 PM
>  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >  Subject: Slightly OT: Telco Line Problems
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  We are having some odd line problems at one of our branches
>  > that none of
>  > us
>  > >  have been able to figure out so I thought I'd throw this one out to
the
>  > >  group.
>  > >
>  > >  From time to time, sometimes many weeks in between events, our
csu/dsu
>  > >  begins to report OOF and AIS (T1 yellow alarm) errors, but the
>  > line will
>  > >  stay up for a while.  Then, at some point, we'll get a T1 red alarm
and
>  > the
>  > >  circuit will die.  We call USWest who then tests the line.
>  > According to
>  > >  them, they've replaced just about everything between the CO and our
>  > >  location, and the line tests clean.  Friday it was bouncing every
30-60
>  > >  seconds so we had them test it again.  Since the test, it has
>  > been error
>  > >  free but they claim not to have discovered any problems.
>  > >
>  > >  This is the endless cycle so far:  the line dies, they test,
>  > they report
>  > no
>  > >  problems, line mysteriously works fine after test for a several
weeks,
>  > the
>  > >  line has problems, the line dies, they test...etc.
>  > >
>  > >  My only remaining guesses are these two:  bad csu/dsu that
>  > isn't bad all
>  > the
>  > >  time, or intermittent problems at the location (we share it with a
very
>  > >  large supermarket.)
>  > >
>  > >  Any thoughts?
>  > >
>  > >  TIA,
>  > >  John Neiberger, CCNA/CCDA
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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