> It is even worse when it is your bosses and corporation that don't know what
> you do or what the CCIE/CCNP etc is. "Sure we'll support you.........It costs
> WHAT?!?"
Larry
>
>
> I get the same thing. I say "I'm a network consultant" and they say "Oh,
> you work with computers!". Then I say "no, I work with routers, switches,
> and acess servers". It gives me great joy to watch as their eyes glaze over
> as they have no comprehension as to what I just said. Then the topic of
> discussion changes rather quickly, just I'm starting to get on a roll about
> the latest IOS release and the new feature set it supports....
>
> Rik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 7:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Passed COD
>
> Hey, try saying that you teach computer networking to people! ;-) Everyone
> says, "Oh, you teach people how to use the Internet?" I answer, "No, I
> teach the engineers that build the Internet." Then I get blank stares. ;-)
> It's frustrating.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 04:27 PM 7/24/00, Chris Larson wrote:
> >I can sympathize. Congratulations it is a big deal. I too do not find many
> >people to talk to or get excited about what I do. It seems to be that way
> >for many many engineers. I have resolved to simply saying "I work with
> >computers" when people ask me what I do because even if I explain it to
> them
> >they still don't understand and telling them I work with CPU's is just
> >simpler. It is not a job that you can go home and talk about. "Yeah honey,
> >it was cool. I built 3 3-DES VPNS between several branch offices, but it
> was
> >frustrating because I somehow messed up the OSPF tables". WTF are you
> >talking about??
> >
> >My uncle is a Doctor and when he says I sewed someones arm back on everyone
> >understands. If you say I attatched a router to a network (the simplest of
> >terms)nobody knows what you really did and how neat that really is, or more
> >importantly all the things it will allow that comany to accomplish.
> >
> >
> >Well hey!! I understand, and even if everyone else doesn't understand, we
> >build networks, we make the internet happen, and we enable the people we
> >work for to do so many incredible things. It is very very important work.
> >
> >Again CONGRATS!!!!
> >
> >
> >AUX0
> >CCNP +Security
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 12:44 PM
> >To: 'CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)'; 'Group Study'
> >Subject: RE: Passed COD
> >
> >
> >I sympathize with you about your spouse not understanding what you've
> >accomplished. My wife has said she hasn't understood a thing I've said
> >since I stopped working with servers five years ago :-)
> >
> >Let me offer a warm and heartfelt (virtual) hug of acceptance and
> respect...
> > - Dennis Laganiere
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:27 PM
> >To: 'Group Study'
> >Subject: Passed CCDP
> >
> >
> >I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I
> passed
> >CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP.
> >I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new
> >job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I
> >would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am
> >past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the
> >excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of
> my
> >family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished.
> >Does anyone else feel similar?
> >
> >Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP.
> >I took the CCDP 2.0 path.
> >Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not much
> >help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500
> >switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc.
> >
> >April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult.
> >
> >June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN, IPX
> >and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP
> >TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP.
> >
> >June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I thought
> >it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book.
> >
> >July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press CID
> >book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide.
> >Know specs on ATM gear.
> >
> >I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands
> >on will be good practice for CCIE.
> >
> >Thanks to the group for all of your posts.
> >
> >Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA
> >Systems Design Engineer
> >SBC DataComm
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> ________________________
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
>
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