Duck-

Just for the record, he flamed many of us personally calling us cowards and
the like.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:34 PM
> To: William E Gragido; Croyle, James; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> Could not agree more, as someone who holds numerous certs and is in a
> position of hiring people a feel that certification is a major part of my
> descision process. But this is not a job interview it is a
> discussion group,
> with much phenomenal talent and many certs. So why do we
> advertise them when
> we sign, who cares!!! I told edgar that he should connect the cables and
> turn the equipment on. That was the best advice or direction you
> can give a
> budding NE, play with it, You know!! For that advice edgar sent me a Flame
> E-mail,  Edgar told me he worked with people like me, I didn't know what
> that means. No problem!!! I don't work with people like Edgar either,
> because if someone told me they were a CCNA/CCDA and then they
> wanted to be
> spoon feed work I taught my 6 year old son to do, I'd have to let him go.
> But if someone told me he was a CCNA/CCDA and had worked at
> connecting those
> three devices till midnight without success, I would work along with that
> person the next night to midnight, cause ya gotta love it. See the
> difference edgar. Most people here don't have a personal router
> to play with
> and all they get is time at work to use equipment.
> So let me give you this advice again in open group, Plug it in and turn it
> on and start to play, when you hit a snag, everyone and anyone in
> the group
> will help.
> Duck
> TTR, CCLK IIOU,CWEBEE, and that elusive cert ABC YEAH YOU KNOW ME.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Croyle, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:20 PM
> Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> > I hate to disagree with you on this Jim, but I don't think that Drew was
> > being sarcastic at all.  He pointed out something extremely pertinent to
> > this persons post---the fact that he asked a question that was by all
> shakes
> > of the stick elementary and that his sginature reads(look at the post
> again)
> > CCNA/CCDA.  I think that this identified an interesting phenomenon that
> > struck other vendor certifications and that I personally hate to see
> strike
> > Ciscos.  There are no such things as stupid questions and I believe that
> > each one of us on this list is more than happy to help anyone with
> anything.
> > After all no one knows everything!  However to post a question of this
> sort
> > and then include in your signature that you have obtained respected
> industry
> > certifications may be a tactical error.  Cheers, and thats my 2cents!
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Croyle, James
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:22 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't have much time to respond to this one due to a large looming
> > > project, except...
> > >
> > > 1)  Drew seems to have a nasty non-helpful attitude, and if you
> > > (Drew) post
> > > to the list asking any questions, I hope you are greeted with
> an equally
> > > sarcastic and immature response as yours.
> > >
> > > 2)  Edgar, I would recommend that you at least try something
> > > before posting
> > > something like where do I start.  I think this list is more I
> have tried
> > > something and it doesn't work, or I have this situation, and what are
> your
> > > recommendations.  MOST everyone will give you great advice and
> > > recommendations when you approach it this way.  Except for a
> > > select few, and
> > > you have to expect that from any list.  :-)
> > >
> > > Jim Croyle
> > > CCNA, MCSE, CNA, A+
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:41 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> > >
> > >
> > > Does your signature say CCNA/CCDA?
> > >
> > > Did you pay someone to study for you and take the exams?
> > >
> > > Drew M. Mooney
> > > Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together
> > > 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126
> > > 408-525-0873 [office]           408-287-3188 [home]
> > > 817-937-7880 [mobile]         888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager]
> > > +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:02 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Integrator wanted!
> > >
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > >
> > > I have a Cisco 2505, laptop on Win98, and a desktop with Linux
> > > 6.2 and I will like to connect them.
> > >
> > > I have a PCMCIA ethernet LAN card for the laptop, an ethernet
> > > LAN for the PC with cables all around.
> > >
> > > The objective is to learn Cisco router configuration and
> > > Linux/Win98 TCP/IP operations.
> > >
> > > Anyone want to volunteer to instruct me to put all the pieces to
> > > together over the coming week or so?
> > >
> > > -edgar
> > > CCNA/CCDA
> > >
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