this is what I'm saying!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Croyle, James
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:39 PM
> To: 'Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> You forced me to reopen the topic.  :-)  Though it probably doesn't matter
> to anyone, I am very impressed with your response to all this, and I will
> help you anytime you need it now.  As to your question is is
> unreasonable...
> No, it is not unreasonable, but I see people trying everyday with minimal
> experience and that certification to do something, and I love it,
> and I see
> people with 10 years of experience SPIT on the certification
> idea; they say,
> you want someone who can take tests, or someone who can do the job.  Boy,
> that would become the longest discussion this group has seen in a
> long time
> I would imagine.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:35 PM
> To: 'Croyle, James'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> I seem to have created a bit of a stir - and I apologize to both Edgar and
> the list in general for my rudeness. I do indeed expect to post questions
> [already have in fact] to the list, and I'm always grateful for advice and
> pointers.
>
> On the other hand - and I've already replied to this offline with
> Edgar - is
> it unreasonable to assume a high [and broad] level of networking expertise
> from someone billing themselves as a certified Networking AND Design
> Associate?
>
> I'm working on these self-same certifications - and I intend to do it in
> such a way that when I have the credentials, I'll also possess
> the hands-on
> skills they're supposed to represent. I could read a book, browse
> a website,
> memorize a few practice exams and very likely breeze through any written
> exam Cisco presents.
>
> To then mis-represent myself as a credentialed networking
> craftsman though -
> would be an insult to every certified individual with the skills to back
> them up - and just the sort of behavior that belittles the accomplishments
> of those who have come before.
>
> So - I throw myself upon the mercy of the court - and plead guilty for
> lobbying for truth in advertising.
>
> Drew M. Mooney
> Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Croyle, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 4:22 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> I don't have much time to respond to this one due to a large looming
> project, except...
>
> 1)  Drew seems to have a nasty non-helpful attitude, and if you
> (Drew) post
> to the list asking any questions, I hope you are greeted with an equally
> sarcastic and immature response as yours.
>
> 2)  Edgar, I would recommend that you at least try something
> before posting
> something like where do I start.  I think this list is more I have tried
> something and it doesn't work, or I have this situation, and what are your
> recommendations.  MOST everyone will give you great advice and
> recommendations when you approach it this way.  Except for a
> select few, and
> you have to expect that from any list.  :-)
>
> Jim Croyle
> CCNA, MCSE, CNA, A+
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:41 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> Does your signature say CCNA/CCDA?
>
> Did you pay someone to study for you and take the exams?
>
> Drew M. Mooney
> Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together
> 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126
> 408-525-0873 [office]           408-287-3188 [home]
> 817-937-7880 [mobile]         888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager]
> +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Integrator wanted!
>
>
> Friends,
>
>       I have a Cisco 2505, laptop on Win98, and a desktop with Linux
> 6.2 and I will like to connect them.
>
>       I have a PCMCIA ethernet LAN card for the laptop, an ethernet
> LAN for the PC with cables all around.
>
>       The objective is to learn Cisco router configuration and
> Linux/Win98 TCP/IP operations.
>
>       Anyone want to volunteer to instruct me to put all the pieces to
> together over the coming week or so?
>
> -edgar
> CCNA/CCDA
>
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