I've passed the written but still haven't had a reply about my subscription.

I think they only add people periodicly

-----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson Jr
Sent:   28 July 2000 18:32
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlemagne
Subject:        Re: Fw: Integrator wanted!

I have a few more month till I take the written portion and I am looking to
take my first attempt at the lab about 6 months after that.The web site says
you have to have completed your written exam to join. Is this true.
Duck
----- Original Message -----
From: Charlemagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Integrator wanted!


> Donald,
>
> I agree with you.  If someone who claimed to be a CCNA
> came up to me and asked me how to perform these basic
> functions, I would let them go immediately.  I don't
> put my certifications after my name because they are
> meaningless.  Many people have college degrees but
> don't list BA Management after their names when they
> sign e-mails.  Few of these people trying to attain
> CCNA and so forth have a clue about what to do on the
> job.  But then they complain that they have a CCNA and
> can't get hired.  To many people feel entitled in this
> business.  Grunt work is to good for them, and they
> think they are stars.  I suggest you become a member
> of the CCIE list, and then you won't need to deal with
> the ridiculous questions posted to this list.
>
> Regards Kamoto
>
> --- Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > Croyle, James
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 12:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Integrator wanted!
> >
> >
> > > Could not agree more, as someone who holds
> > numerous certs and is in a
> > > position of hiring people a feel that
> > certification is a major part of my
> > > descision process. But this is not a job interview
> > it is a discussion
> > group,
> > > with much phenomenal talent and many certs. So why
> > do we advertise them
> > when
> > > we sign, who cares!!! I told edgar that he should
> > connect the cables and
> > > turn the equipment on. That was the best advice or
> > direction you can give
> > a
> > > budding NE, play with it, You know!! For that
> > advice edgar sent me a Flame
> > > E-mail,  Edgar told me he worked with people like
> > me, I didn't know what
> > > that means. No problem!!! I don't work with people
> > like Edgar either,
> > > because if someone told me they were a CCNA/CCDA
> > and then they wanted to
> > be
> > > spoon feed work I taught my 6 year old son to do,
> > I'd have to let him go.
> > > But if someone told me he was a CCNA/CCDA and had
> > worked at connecting
> > those
> > > three devices till midnight without success, I
> > would work along with that
> > > person the next night to midnight, cause ya gotta
> > love it. See the
> > > difference edgar. Most people here don't have a
> > personal router to play
> > with
> > > and all they get is time at work to use equipment.
> > > So let me give you this advice again in open
> > group, Plug it in and turn it
> > > on and start to play, when you hit a snag,
> > everyone and anyone in the
> > group
> > > will help.
> > > Duck
> > > TTR, CCLK IIOU,CWEBEE, and that elusive cert ABC
> > YEAH YOU KNOW ME.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: William E Gragido
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Croyle, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> > >
> > >
> > > > I hate to disagree with you on this Jim, but I
> > don't think that Drew was
> > > > being sarcastic at all.  He pointed out
> > something extremely pertinent to
> > > > this persons post---the fact that he asked a
> > question that was by all
> > > shakes
> > > > of the stick elementary and that his sginature
> > reads(look at the post
> > > again)
> > > > CCNA/CCDA.  I think that this identified an
> > interesting phenomenon that
> > > > struck other vendor certifications and that I
> > personally hate to see
> > > strike
> > > > Ciscos.  There are no such things as stupid
> > questions and I believe that
> > > > each one of us on this list is more than happy
> > to help anyone with
> > > anything.
> > > > After all no one knows everything!  However to
> > post a question of this
> > > sort
> > > > and then include in your signature that you have
> > obtained respected
> > > industry
> > > > certifications may be a tactical error.  Cheers,
> > and thats my 2cents!
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > > Croyle, James
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:22 PM
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have much time to respond to this one
> > due to a large looming
> > > > > project, except...
> > > > >
> > > > > 1)  Drew seems to have a nasty non-helpful
> > attitude, and if you
> > > > > (Drew) post
> > > > > to the list asking any questions, I hope you
> > are greeted with an
> > equally
> > > > > sarcastic and immature response as yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2)  Edgar, I would recommend that you at least
> > try something
> > > > > before posting
> > > > > something like where do I start.  I think this
> > list is more I have
> > tried
> > > > > something and it doesn't work, or I have this
> > situation, and what are
> > > your
> > > > > recommendations.  MOST everyone will give you
> > great advice and
> > > > > recommendations when you approach it this way.
> >  Except for a
> > > > > select few, and
> > > > > you have to expect that from any list.  :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Croyle
> > > > > CCNA, MCSE, CNA, A+
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:41 PM
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Integrator wanted!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does your signature say CCNA/CCDA?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you pay someone to study for you and take
> > the exams?
> > > > >
> > > > > Drew M. Mooney
> > > > > Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together
> > > > > 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126
> > > > > 408-525-0873 [office]           408-287-3188
> > [home]
> > > > > 817-937-7880 [mobile]         888-809-9678
> > [SkyTel Pager]
> > > > > +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:02 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Integrator wanted!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Cisco 2505, laptop on Win98, and a
> > desktop with Linux
> > > > > 6.2 and I will like to connect them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a PCMCIA ethernet LAN card for the
> > laptop, an ethernet
> > > > > LAN for the PC with cables all around.
> > > > >
> > > > > The objective is to learn Cisco router
> > configuration and
> > > > > Linux/Win98 TCP/IP operations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone want to volunteer to instruct me to put
> > all the pieces to
> > > > > together over the coming week or so?
> > > > >
> > > > > -edgar
> > > > > CCNA/CCDA
> > > > >
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