That is a ADSL WIC or am I missing something?  We are looking to use IDSL
but can not find a router that supports 3DES and IDSL
 
 
Ryan

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        You mean? newest:
        
        DSL WAN Interface Cards
        WIC-1ADSL-I-DG 1-port ADSLoISDN WAN Interface Card
        
        cco partner login:
        
        http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/routers/ps221/products_data_s
        heet09186a0080088713.html
        
        
        Martijn
        
        
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        Verzonden: woensdag 13 augustus 2003 3:57
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        You are right it is a service offering.   Right now, we are using ISDN
        dial-up and would like to move to a full time connection.  We would not be
        using the customerbs connection but will be installing a 144K IDSL or 192K
        SDSL line.  What I am going to do on Friday in the lab ( If we get the lines
        from Covad on time) is use a 7200 at the head end and a 1700 on the other
        end run the IPSec and NAT on the 1700 and see how that goes.  The only
        problem is I cannot find an IDSL WIC on CCO I only see an ADSL and SDSL.
        
        
        
        
        
        Ryan
        
        
        
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        Sent: Mon 8/11/2003 10:02 AM
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                I would certainly hope that the remotes wouldn't use different
        platforms.
        I
                don't know the business model, but it sounds to me like it's some
        kind of
                service offering or something.  Maybe they have a 2000 site Frame
        Relay
                network used to offer a service or something, and they want to
        switch to
                something more economical.  Instead of paying monthly circuit fees,
        pay a
                one-time hardware cost (assuming they don't own the FR routers at
        the
                customer end) and use the customer's Internet connection.  Why in
        the world
                would you want different hardware at each customer site in that
        situation?
                Standardize on one hardware platform, and build the cost of that
        hardware
                into the business model...
        
                If that's the case then the cost of a 3005 can be justified in a
        small
                number of months, depending on your FR cost.  Certainly you would
        recoup
                your cost and start making more money, due to less operating cost,
                relatively quickly.
        
                Now, if this is something else, like a company with 2000 offices
        throughout
                the world, then I can see your point and you may end up with
        different
                requirements.  But, that's not how it sounds so far.
        
                Fred Reimer - CCNA
        
        
                Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
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                Despite all hw issues, you really need to
                - describe the business req's first
                - translate to technical req's
        
                (you are talking 2000+ sites)
        
                And you will see that you'll need more than one platform for de
        Remotes.
        
                Dependig on your hierarchy concerning
                - messaging
                - authentication
                - client-server
                - webapps
                - desktop/register maintenance/management
                - security man
        
                You will need to or may want to build an hierarchical design. Keep
        in mind
                that differen platfroms use different (HQ) fail-over or 2nd ip
        techniques.
        
                Martijn
        
        
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                Van: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Verzonden: zondag 10 augustus 2003 4:36
                Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Onderwerp: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793]
        
        
                I need to setup VPNs to about 2000 sites.  Each site will have an
        IDSL line
                installed that will be used to connect to monitor network devices
        and
                servers.  Some of the remote networks will be using the same network
        block.
                I am looking to know what the best hardware to use on each end is.
        On my
                end, would it be better to use a PIX or a 3030?  On the remote end,
        I was
                looking at a PIX 501, SOHO 91 or the 831?
        
        
                Thank you
        
        
                Ryan
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