Go the perfet tool get a papermate lubriguide refill Costs all of 2.00 file the ball off maybe get some acetone and get all the ink out .. (steal the cooks nail polish remover) I have 2 one that is ground off a little higher so it has a larger internal ID. Used it get unbend CPU pins. These work out great because you can get right down the the base where pin is attached . Any attempts by grabbing the pins on the end ( way from the board) usually results in pin removal as you have now a great little lever when you try to pull it up. the trick is to try and pull it up to vertical at the same angle it was bent at .. Slowly.. Easy device to check the pins are in alignment .. credit card Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]