Just a note:

The MCSE is focused on system administration in a lan/wan environment. BUT
note that one of the four core exams (I am refering to the MCSE 4.0 track)
is Networking Essentials, and one of the two electives that many takes
(including me) is TCP/IP. That means that many MCSE's education is about
66.666% system administration and 33.333% networking.

When I studied for CCNA 2.0 I realized how much material I was reading for
the second time, since much of it is included in Networking Essentials and
MS TCP/IP. If I had known that a couple of years ago, I would have studied
for CCNA right after my TCP/IP, but then I would have had the CCNA 1.0
instead of the CCNA 2.0 now.

Ole

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 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:36 PM
To: 'Albert Ip'; 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months


There is a very fine line between what you call networking and system
administration.
In today's day and age, it is very good and very important to know an OS
well, as well
as Cisco IOS skills.
In my opinion, knowing NT or 2000 server well is very much an important part
of networking :-)
   -Marshal


-----Original Message-----
From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:02 PM
To: 'Rah Sta'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: $13,300 for 5 months


Does your friend needs to go to school?  Does he has the ability to learn on
his own?  
I would spend $3500 on equipment.  Study by himself, than go to the training
if he needs it for that course.
Remember another thing, MCSE is not networking. It is system administration.


Albert

-----Original Message-----
From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: $13,300 for 5 months


To all,

I have a friend who wants to get into networking. He plans on taking a 5 
month networking course at CHUBBS. I told him he's crazy. He said that they 
will give him the skills he need to PASS 4 Microsoft exam(MCSE) and CCNA. I 
told him that impossible, especially for $13,500. He lives in the New 
York/New Jersey area. I know there are better courses out there. Does any 
one have any suggestion? He has $13,500 to spend.


                                                   Raheem
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