On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Kevin Wigle wrote:
> Although the idea that the survey affects the score is interesting, I too
> cannot fathom how the survey matters.
>
> You can answer the survey different for every exam. Where is the continuity
> there? And explain to me the difference between a "beginning" CCIE
> Candidate and a "seasoned" CCIE Candidate.
>
> Changing your answers to the survey seems like an easy way to improve your
> odds. How would Cisco know that your survey answers are correct?
well, the survey if I understand correctly doesn't necessarily make the
test easier or harder, you would get the same questions regardless. It
just shifts the weighting, so that some questions are weighed more than
others..............I don't claim to know how they accomplish any of this,
I can only speculate.
>
> In truth, I don't think I have answered all the surveys the same as I have
> grown from the first Cisco exam over 2 years ago to completing CCDP/CCDP
> just last month.
>
> Nah, I don't think the survey means anything to us. I do think that Cisco
> wants to know the demographics of who is taking what exams. Unfortunately
> this would mean that Cisco is adding a little scare tactic to get you to
> answer their survey but perhaps adding a little more anxiety when you need
> it least.
The survey is not optional. You *have* to take it. So its not like they
are trying to influence you to take it or not, you don't have a choice. I
don't believe that Cisco would lie about the way you answer the survey
effecting the way it is scored. If they say it effects the score, then
you should assume it does..........granted we don't know in what way.
People have said in the past that answering it various ways has effected
the results, I don't think anyone has pinpointed in what way. The only
way I could fathom is in weighting.......and make no mistake about it, the
questions on Cisco tests *are* weighted.
Brian
> my .02 cents
>
> Kevin Wigle
> CCDP/CCNP...........
>
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> From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, 27 August, 2000 17:24
> Subject: Re: Exam 350-001, I'm so pissed!
>
>
> > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > I have to agree with Chuck on this matter. The survey IS NOT / CAN'T BE
> an
> > > influence on your score. The cisco exams are not even "adaptive" like
> the Novell
> > > exams. The questions are pulled from a pool established by evaluating
> the beta
> > > exam results and a certain number of questions are pulled for each
> subsection of
> > > the exam. There really would be no point to making the exam difficulty
> relative to
> > > survey responses. If Cisco did that, the exams would be WORTHLESS,
> allowing you to
> > > sandbag them by answering that you are a complete novice. What is the
> CCIE written
> > > supposed to do ? Fill out the survey that you have 2 weeks experience
> and it'll
> > > give you CCNA-level questions instead of asking about obscure details of
> token
> > > ring? The difficulty level of the exam is a constant, not a variable.
> >
> > Read the disclaimer next time you test. It clearly states that how you
> > answer the questionairre will influence your score. Cisco tests are not
> > adaptive, but they are weighted. If you are a beginner, you would be
> > expected not to miss questions on fundementals......perhaps those are
> > weighted more, vs. questions that are more advanced which it may weigh
> > less for a beginner. If you claim you are the God of networking, you
> > would probably get more weight to more advanced questions, and penalized
> > less for missing beginner questions that might be say something someone
> > more advanced may have forgotten.
> >
> > I do not know "how" they do it........I am just going by what they tell
> > you when you test, and this is for the professional tests not just the
> > CCIE tests........they clearly state that "how you answer this
> > questionairre will influence how your test is scored"............doesn't
> > seem to vaugue to me.......
> >
> > Brian
> >
>
>
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Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)
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