Daniel - since you just started your own consulting firm, become a Cisco
reseller. Once you get a few entry level certs (CCNA, CCDA, Sales Expert),
you will find that Cisco will be very accomodating in terms of resources and
practice labs, etc. They offer a lot of stuff to their partners to help them
get certified. Right now they have a promotion where partners can take
certification classes at $500 instead of the usual $1200 - $1800... There is
even a special 2 for 1 deal (2 classes for $500).
Cisco has a program called ASET (Advanced System Engineer Training) which
you can take in San Jose. It looks and feels just like the actual lab exam,
except that there is a CCIE there to help you, and you can talk amongst the
others there to find solutiuons to the problems you encounter...
Become a Cisco partner - it is worth the effort...
Dale
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>From: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:06 -0600
>
>I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
>with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
>I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
>buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)
>
>I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
>everyday.
>I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of
>firms
>know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
>All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.
>
>There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
>build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
>When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
>Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
>products.
>Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
>their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?
>
>When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
>asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
>crazy.
>How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
>get more knowledge (books....) I will try to give my time freely to get
>some
>experience.
>
>Just my two cents.................
>
>
>
>
>""Terrence Garrison"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> > can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> > study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> > the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> > a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> > you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> > that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> > CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> > job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> > to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> > this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> > and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> > has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> > that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> > or not, degree or not, smart or average.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from
>work!
> > >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> > >
> > >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all? I
> > >seriously
> > >hope not.
> > >
> > >Rishard
> > >
> > >
> > >""Wind"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hiya;
> > > >
> > > > Now I finished my CCNP. I should go for the CCIE,
> > >otherwise
> > >my
> > > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not
>from
> > > > working with system integrator?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Vincent
> > > >
> > > >
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