Dale,
I do have my CCNA and I also wrote the BCRAN exam and I am on the verge of
writing my Switching exam.
I also have my CCO account and did get the Sales Tool Central cd. I had also
ordered the Cisco product catalog prior to becoming a reseller.
I also want to reinforced the fact that I am in Edmonton, Alberta CANADA
(hey!) and that for me to take a hands-on
instructor led course (I then get lab access for 5 days) it cost $2600 or so
of canadian buckaroo.
(which converted in US $ is about10 cases of Coors Lite ). Seeing the real
thing and doing virtual lab is
two different thing. I like to get down and dirty and practice till I know
what I am doing. This has always been my priority. I always was able to
afford
Lan Hardware and software. But Cisco stuff is another thing............. I
know that there is tons of people in this situatiuon. They want to move from
network administrator to internetworking and the only means to learn are
BOOKS!
I do understand that I will be a paper CCNP (my goal for now) and I will not
be afraid to confirm my ignorance as far as hands-on. But I will understand
the concepts and have a good understanding of the different required
configurations. I have been reading almost all of the related emails in this
group for close to two months now. As you can see I am dedicating my time to
learning as best as I can with the resources that I have.
To be fair to Cisco's local office, I have to say that after the "cold
shower" they gave me the first time around, I haven't called them since.
I feel that I should know a little more in order to be able to pinpoint
better my hands-on needs. I will call them again soon. Hope that they are a
little more cooperative.
""Dale Holmes"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Daniel - since you just started your own consulting firm, become a Cisco
> reseller. Once you get a few entry level certs (CCNA, CCDA, Sales Expert),
> you will find that Cisco will be very accomodating in terms of resources
and
> practice labs, etc. They offer a lot of stuff to their partners to help
them
> get certified. Right now they have a promotion where partners can take
> certification classes at $500 instead of the usual $1200 - $1800... There
is
> even a special 2 for 1 deal (2 classes for $500).
>
> Cisco has a program called ASET (Advanced System Engineer Training) which
> you can take in San Jose. It looks and feels just like the actual lab
exam,
> except that there is a CCIE there to help you, and you can talk amongst
the
> others there to find solutiuons to the problems you encounter...
>
> Become a Cisco partner - it is worth the effort...
>
> Dale
> [=`)
>
>
> >From: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!
> >Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:06 -0600
> >
> >I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
> >with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
> >I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able
to
> >buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)
> >
> >I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my
skills
> >everyday.
> >I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of
> >firms
> >know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
> >All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.
> >
> >There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
> >build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
> >When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
> >Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
> >products.
> >Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least
saw
> >their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?
> >
> >When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
> >asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
> >crazy.
> >How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
> >get more knowledge (books....) I will try to give my time freely to get
> >some
> >experience.
> >
> >Just my two cents.................
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >""Terrence Garrison"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> > > can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> > > study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> > > the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> > > a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> > > you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> > > that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> > > CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> > > job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> > > to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> > > this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> > > and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> > > has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> > > that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> > > or not, degree or not, smart or average.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from
> >work!
> > > >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> > > >
> > > >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all? I
> > > >seriously
> > > >hope not.
> > > >
> > > >Rishard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >""Wind"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Hiya;
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I finished my CCNP. I should go for the CCIE,
> > > >otherwise
> > > >my
> > > > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not
> >from
> > > > > working with system integrator?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Vincent
> > > > >
> > > > >
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