It's too bad that you don't live in the northeast, Our local Cisco office
has lots of hands on events for resellers that don't cost anything. The
handouts and presentations are stored on the web site in ZIP format in the
"Presentation/Document Archive" at
http://www.cisco-resellers.com/
The schedules for the Reseller Hands On events are also there. I went to a
lot of them from a reseller that only sold one router and one PIX in a six
month period while I worked there.
Vern Stitt
ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE
""Daniel Boutet"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)
I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
everyday.
I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of firms
know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.
There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
products.
Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?
When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
crazy.
How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
get more knowledge (books....) I will try to give my time freely to get some
experience.
Just my two cents.................
""Terrence Garrison"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> or not, degree or not, smart or average.
>
>
> >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from work!
> >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> >
> >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all? I
> >seriously
> >hope not.
> >
> >Rishard
> >
> >
> >""Wind"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hiya;
> > >
> > > Now I finished my CCNP. I should go for the CCIE,
> >otherwise
> >my
> > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not from
> > > working with system integrator?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Vincent
> > >
> > >
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