I totally agree with Jerome and would like to add
something to it.
I remember a day when one of the gas station in the
town reduced the gas price from $1.35 to $0.59. There
was a mad rush at that gas station since everyone
wanted to get the cheap gas.
If you were an owner of a nearby gas station, I bet
you would be furious to see all your customer lining
up at another gas station.
Now tell me who would you blame, the gas station owner
who reduced the price of gasoline or the people who
are lining up at his gas station? I see analogy of
this scenerio with US Government giving out H1-B
visas.
Now H1-B is an invention of companies like Microsoft
and others who love cheap labour. And then of course
it has blessings of majority of leaders in Washington.
So if foreigners are taking advantage of this who is
to blame, the people who are seeking H1-B or who are
giving it. I'd say it US government one should blame
and not the H1-B seekers.
On top of that I know that H1-B in nothing more than
an elegant form of slave labour where an employee has
absolutely no right what so ever and companies exploit
them to the max.
So as Jerome said what gets you a job is your skills
and how you market it. So lets end this useless
conversation here and talk about something more
productive like how to study to achieve cisco
certifications.
--- JEROME OKOLO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "JEROME OKOLO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:21:24 GMT
> Reply-to: "JEROME OKOLO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It's amazing how certain people assume that they are
> the only ones who have
> foreigners employed in their country. There are many
> good jobs from where i
> come from that are being done by expatriates. Even
> though there is no
> shortage of qualified citizens. Get over it guys and
> realize that what gets
> you a job is your intelligence and your skills, not
> some accident of birth.
>
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "Matt C. Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Sam Adams
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Dick Silva'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
> >Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:08:18 -0400
> >
> >/
> >And while they have your job, ie, you're not
> working, your family is
> >hungry,
> >what is your point?
> >\
> >
> >
> >
> >Quoting "Matt C. Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Hey just remember they are willing to take the
> pay cut to get
> >citizenship.
> > > Also, 50,000 grand is like 1 millions over there
> so I have been told by
> >a
> > > Consultant from India. They come here take
> away american jobs and
> >make
> > > there nest egg and go back as kings.
> > > Just my two cents, Oh and I am not racist I
> would feel the same if it
> >were
> > > someone form Germany as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Sam Adams
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:12 PM
> > > To: 'Dick Silva'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know what controls are in place to
> enforce the law. But I would
> > > think that someone tooting his horn about cheap
> foreign workers is
> >asking
> > > for trouble. Perhaps, you should show the
> article to the INS or the
> > > appropriate agency to put these guys out of
> business. Not only are they
> > > exploiting the system and the American people
> but exploiting the foreign
> > > workers as well.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:43 PM
> > > To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
> > >
> > >
> > > /
> > > H-1Bs are not paid at market rate even though it
> is federal law.
> > >
> > > In Clearwater, FL there is a company that
> recruits only H-1Bs from other
> > > countries.
> > > One of their salesman was being interviewed by
> the local newspaper, St
> > > Petersburg Times, and he was naming off the
> advantages of hiring foreign
> > > workers, and I quote, "We just placed one man in
> Boston for $55k/yr if
> >it
> > > had been an American they would have had to pay
> $85K/yr".
> > > I keep wondering about that level playing field
> George Bush Sr was
> >always
> > > talking about.
> > >
> > > Like the man said...The H-1B program is a fraud.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sam Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:29 PM
> > > Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
> > >
> > >
> > > >I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at
> market rate?
> > > >
> > > >BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B
> so if the foreign
> >workers
> > > do
> > > >not like their jobs then they have no recourse
> but work until it is
> > > >transferred. Or not work until it is
> transferred. They don'
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