Do I expect first rights? Of course. And you would as well.
No I have not bled for this country but I could have. Could you?
H1Bs are not a citizenship issue anyway. These people are not applying for
citizenships.. that is another issue.
I am not angry at these people. I am unhappy that there is an attempt to
decieve the American people as to the severity of this shortage and
because there is an undercutting of wage value.
>From: "Foreign Foreign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Curtis Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:29:25 -0400
>
>Curtis
>
>Please answer a question for me. Actually two.
>1) You expect to be given first rights because your ancestors have bled for
>this country? Have you bled for this country?
>2) Why did your ancestors come to this country? Is it because they had
>everything in their motherland and chose to give it all up and start all
>over again? If they really did so then, I salute them. If not, I rest my
>case.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Curtis Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:49 PM
>Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
>
>
> > Well, I guess the arguments of the pro-H1B people are as predictable as
>the
> > left-leaning, politically correct arguments of so many people here in
>this
> > country. Everyone who opposes them is fearful, closed-minded, and
>ignorant.
> > What is being said is that wages, in general are being watered down as a
> > result of "cheap labor".
> >
> > Yeah, we are all imigrants or decendants of imigramts... maybe the
> > difference is that our fathers and grandfathers have bled to defend this
> > country. Whether you like it or not we are generationally-vested
>citizens
> > and that does make a difference.
> >
> > I find it reprehensible that companys like Microsoft should be lobbying
>so
> > hard for increased visas. I wonder whether they think they could have
> > succeeded in building their companys in India or China.
> >
> > I am having a hard time understanding why so many people from elsewhere
>have
> > taken the time to become educated in an area that their own economies
> > couldn't support.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Babashola Madariola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Babashola Madariola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:05:39 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Wisdom can surely not be bought.
> > >I've never been disappointed by your comments.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/12/2000 09:12:20
>AM
> > >
> > >Please respond to "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >To: "Jobs@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >cc: (bcc: Babashola Madariola/C/Africa/Mobil-Notes)
> > >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Let's close the book on H1 professionals. Why are so many of the
> > >consultants
> > >on this board threatened by them? Do you not have any confidence in
>your
> > >own
> > >skill-sets to keep your job or beat the other to a new one?
> > >
> > >Here is a very simple FACT:
> > >
> > >There are more available jobs in the US than there are qualified
> > >"Americans"
> > >to fill them. If you were beaten to a job by someone that needed
> > >sponsorship, there's an 85% chance that he/she was just better
>qualified
> > >for
> > >the position. The 15% was because the company couldn't afford you and
>made
> > >a
> > >"wise", yet unethical, "business decision" to use someone that needed
> > >sponsorship because they CAN and WILL low ball them. An ethical
>decision
> > >would be to import talent when there is a shortage, but pay them at
>market
> > >value. The people that require sponsorship are more desperate for work
>in
> > >the US because they get paid peanuts in their own country and because
>of
>a
> > >shortage in opportunities. I feel bad for them because I know what it
>was
> > >like to be poor in this country.
> > >
> > >Back home, my grandfather owned an oil refinery and a textile factory.
>My
> > >father was a doctor in our country and we were among the top 10 richest
> > >people in the whole country. We owned 3-4 mansions in each city. We
>came
>to
> > >the US as refugees when the Soviets invaded our country and we gave up
> > >everything we ever owned and worked hard for, just for the chance of
> > >living.
> > >The military now use them as army bases or meeting grounds for the
> > >generals.
> > >The US wouldn't give my father a job as a doctor so he was forced to
>become
> > >a cab driver for 6 years till he studied English and Medicine all over
> > >again
> > >to pass the "American Exams". We are now considered middle to upper
>middle
> > >class. AT first, there were 7 of us living in a small 2 bedroom
>apartment.
> > >One bedroom was for my mother and father and the other was for my aunt,
>my
> > >3
> > >siblings and myself. Barely ate at times. Not a great neighborhood.
> > >
> > >I have worked hard in my short life and learned so much and am willing
>to
> > >give up my position to someone that was more qualified than me, even if
>he
> > >or she required sponsorship. I am all for the H1 professionals in this
> > >world, especially in this country and those willing to give up a lot to
> > >come
> > >for an opportunity here.
> > >
> > >Only the weak feel threatened.
> > >
> > >
> > >Raymond Thomas
> > >Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> > >295 Northern Blvd Suite 302
> > >Great Neck, NY 11021
> > >(516)498-2300 ext. 103
> > >(516)498-1749 fax
> > >(917)444-1334 pager
> > >Web: http://lewisconsultants.com
> > >
> > >
> > ><< att1.htm >>
> >
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