Well, I served this country in USMC and I feel that there is a media slant
to this issue as well. While in the service my job was high tech and when I
came out I never had a problem finding work nor did I experience a problem
competing with those here on H1B Visas.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Curtis Phillips
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
>
>
> Do I expect first rights? Of course. And you would as well.
> No I have not bled for this country but I could have. Could you?
> H1Bs are not a citizenship issue anyway. These people are not
> applying for
> citizenships.. that is another issue.
> I am not angry at these people. I am unhappy that there is an attempt to
> decieve the American people as to the severity of this shortage and
> because there is an undercutting of wage value.
>
>
>
> >From: "Foreign Foreign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Curtis Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:29:25 -0400
> >
> >Curtis
> >
> >Please answer a question for me. Actually two.
> >1) You expect to be given first rights because your ancestors
> have bled for
> >this country? Have you bled for this country?
> >2) Why did your ancestors come to this country? Is it because they had
> >everything in their motherland and chose to give it all up and start all
> >over again? If they really did so then, I salute them. If not, I rest my
> >case.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Curtis Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:49 PM
> >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> >
> >
> > > Well, I guess the arguments of the pro-H1B people are as
> predictable as
> >the
> > > left-leaning, politically correct arguments of so many people here in
> >this
> > > country. Everyone who opposes them is fearful, closed-minded, and
> >ignorant.
> > > What is being said is that wages, in general are being
> watered down as a
> > > result of "cheap labor".
> > >
> > > Yeah, we are all imigrants or decendants of imigramts... maybe the
> > > difference is that our fathers and grandfathers have bled to
> defend this
> > > country. Whether you like it or not we are generationally-vested
> >citizens
> > > and that does make a difference.
> > >
> > > I find it reprehensible that companys like Microsoft should
> be lobbying
> >so
> > > hard for increased visas. I wonder whether they think they could have
> > > succeeded in building their companys in India or China.
> > >
> > > I am having a hard time understanding why so many people from
> elsewhere
> >have
> > > taken the time to become educated in an area that their own economies
> > > couldn't support.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Babashola Madariola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Babashola Madariola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:05:39 +0100
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Wisdom can surely not be bought.
> > > >I've never been disappointed by your comments.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
> 09/12/2000 09:12:20
> >AM
> > > >
> > > >Please respond to "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > >To: "Jobs@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >cc: (bcc: Babashola Madariola/C/Africa/Mobil-Notes)
> > > >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Let's close the book on H1 professionals. Why are so many of the
> > > >consultants
> > > >on this board threatened by them? Do you not have any confidence in
> >your
> > > >own
> > > >skill-sets to keep your job or beat the other to a new one?
> > > >
> > > >Here is a very simple FACT:
> > > >
> > > >There are more available jobs in the US than there are qualified
> > > >"Americans"
> > > >to fill them. If you were beaten to a job by someone that needed
> > > >sponsorship, there's an 85% chance that he/she was just better
> >qualified
> > > >for
> > > >the position. The 15% was because the company couldn't afford you and
> >made
> > > >a
> > > >"wise", yet unethical, "business decision" to use someone that needed
> > > >sponsorship because they CAN and WILL low ball them. An ethical
> >decision
> > > >would be to import talent when there is a shortage, but pay them at
> >market
> > > >value. The people that require sponsorship are more
> desperate for work
> >in
> > > >the US because they get paid peanuts in their own country
> and because
> >of
> >a
> > > >shortage in opportunities. I feel bad for them because I
> know what it
> >was
> > > >like to be poor in this country.
> > > >
> > > >Back home, my grandfather owned an oil refinery and a
> textile factory.
> >My
> > > >father was a doctor in our country and we were among the top
> 10 richest
> > > >people in the whole country. We owned 3-4 mansions in each city. We
> >came
> >to
> > > >the US as refugees when the Soviets invaded our country and
> we gave up
> > > >everything we ever owned and worked hard for, just for the chance of
> > > >living.
> > > >The military now use them as army bases or meeting grounds for the
> > > >generals.
> > > >The US wouldn't give my father a job as a doctor so he was forced to
> >become
> > > >a cab driver for 6 years till he studied English and
> Medicine all over
> > > >again
> > > >to pass the "American Exams". We are now considered middle to upper
> >middle
> > > >class. AT first, there were 7 of us living in a small 2 bedroom
> >apartment.
> > > >One bedroom was for my mother and father and the other was
> for my aunt,
> >my
> > > >3
> > > >siblings and myself. Barely ate at times. Not a great neighborhood.
> > > >
> > > >I have worked hard in my short life and learned so much and
> am willing
> >to
> > > >give up my position to someone that was more qualified than
> me, even if
> >he
> > > >or she required sponsorship. I am all for the H1
> professionals in this
> > > >world, especially in this country and those willing to give
> up a lot to
> > > >come
> > > >for an opportunity here.
> > > >
> > > >Only the weak feel threatened.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Raymond Thomas
> > > >Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> > > >295 Northern Blvd Suite 302
> > > >Great Neck, NY 11021
> > > >(516)498-2300 ext. 103
> > > >(516)498-1749 fax
> > > >(917)444-1334 pager
> > > >Web: http://lewisconsultants.com
> > > >
> > > >
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