Hi
I have to agree with Ramond on the Education issue.
This is an article an friend of mine sent me about the education system. He
was
from India hence the comparison bet the Indian system and the American one.
But I think it would apply to other parts of the world.
http://www.cecs.uci.edu/~sumitg/essays/IndianVsUSEducation.html
Read this and reflect on what he says. Having seen both systems first hand
I
agree with him.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Curtis Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jobs@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
>
>
> > >I am having a hard time understanding why so many people from elsewhere
> > have
> > taken the time to become educated in an area that their own economies
> > couldn't support.<
> >
> > So they don't waste a great mind. Why should someone just be a farmer
for
> > example, when they have a brain to be damn good engineer?
> >
> > Why do those that are against H1B professionals have so much animosity
> > towards them and those for them, when it's THE HIRING COMPANY to be
blamed
> > IF and ONLY IF they hire them as cheap labor? 80% of the H1
professionals
> > are here because there aren't enough qualified "Americans" for the job.
> >
> > THE PROBLEM IS OUR EDUCATION
SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > We are too damn lenient. I hated it when some ignorant bastard makes a
> > comment like "That Chink thinks he's so smart". It frustrated me and
made
> me
> > so angry back in school. That "Chink" who happened to be Japanese came
> from
> > the school of hard Knox! He was smarter than most college kids, only
> because
> > the education system was much tougher in their country, and not because
he
> > was born a genius. The human brain is so complex and such a phenomenon,
> that
> > we still don't know how much one can absorb. So in Japan, they threw
more
> at
> > the kids, and what happened... they turned out smarter than our kids.
> >
> > THINK PEOPLE!
> >
> > Raymond Thomas
> > Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
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> > Great Neck, NY 11021
> > (516)498-2300 ext. 103
> > (516)498-1749 fax
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> > Web: http://lewisconsultants.com <http://lewisconsultants.com/>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 6:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> >
> >
> > Well, I guess the arguments of the pro-H1B people are as predictable as
> the
> > left-leaning, politically correct arguments of so many people here in
this
> > country. Everyone who opposes them is fearful, closed-minded, and
> ignorant.
> > What is being said is that wages, in general are being watered down as a
> > result of "cheap labor".
> >
> > Yeah, we are all imigrants or decendants of imigramts... maybe the
> > difference is that our fathers and grandfathers have bled to defend this
> > country. Whether you like it or not we are generationally-vested
citizens
> > and that does make a difference.
> >
> > I find it reprehensible that companys like Microsoft should be lobbying
so
> > hard for increased visas. I wonder whether they think they could have
> > succeeded in building their companys in India or China.
> >
> > I am having a hard time understanding why so many people from elsewhere
> have
> > taken the time to become educated in an area that their own economies
> > couldn't support.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Babashola Madariola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Babashola Madariola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:05:39 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Wisdom can surely not be bought.
> > >I've never been disappointed by your comments.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/12/2000 09:12:20
AM
> > >
> > >Please respond to "Raymond Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >To: "Jobs@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >cc: (bcc: Babashola Madariola/C/Africa/Mobil-Notes)
> > >Subject: RE: The H1-B Visa Program is a fraud
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Let's close the book on H1 professionals. Why are so many of the
> > >consultants
> > >on this board threatened by them? Do you not have any confidence in
your
> > >own
> > >skill-sets to keep your job or beat the other to a new one?
> > >
> > >Here is a very simple FACT:
> > >
> > >There are more available jobs in the US than there are qualified
> > >"Americans"
> > >to fill them. If you were beaten to a job by someone that needed
> > >sponsorship, there's an 85% chance that he/she was just better
qualified
> > >for
> > >the position. The 15% was because the company couldn't afford you and
> made
> > >a
> > >"wise", yet unethical, "business decision" to use someone that needed
> > >sponsorship because they CAN and WILL low ball them. An ethical
decision
> > >would be to import talent when there is a shortage, but pay them at
> market
> > >value. The people that require sponsorship are more desperate for work
in
> > >the US because they get paid peanuts in their own country and because
of
> a
> > >shortage in opportunities. I feel bad for them because I know what it
was
> > >like to be poor in this country.
> > >
> > >Back home, my grandfather owned an oil refinery and a textile factory.
My
> > >father was a doctor in our country and we were among the top 10 richest
> > >people in the whole country. We owned 3-4 mansions in each city. We
came
> to
> > >the US as refugees when the Soviets invaded our country and we gave up
> > >everything we ever owned and worked hard for, just for the chance of
> > >living.
> > >The military now use them as army bases or meeting grounds for the
> > >generals.
> > >The US wouldn't give my father a job as a doctor so he was forced to
> become
> > >a cab driver for 6 years till he studied English and Medicine all over
> > >again
> > >to pass the "American Exams". We are now considered middle to upper
> middle
> > >class. AT first, there were 7 of us living in a small 2 bedroom
> apartment.
> > >One bedroom was for my mother and father and the other was for my aunt,
> my
> > >3
> > >siblings and myself. Barely ate at times. Not a great neighborhood.
> > >
> > >I have worked hard in my short life and learned so much and am willing
to
> > >give up my position to someone that was more qualified than me, even if
> he
> > >or she required sponsorship. I am all for the H1 professionals in this
> > >world, especially in this country and those willing to give up a lot to
> > >come
> > >for an opportunity here.
> > >
> > >Only the weak feel threatened.
> > >
> > >
> > >Raymond Thomas
> > >Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> > >295 Northern Blvd Suite 302
> > >Great Neck, NY 11021
> > >(516)498-2300 ext. 103
> > >(516)498-1749 fax
> > >(917)444-1334 pager
> > >Web: http://lewisconsultants.com
> > >
> > >
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> >
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