I disagree with you william, an off topic discussion is a welcome change
from the routine questions on testing software, books, where do I find?...
and I think that was a good question anyway what IS the bps, well it was
connection oriented trasmission, ton of overhead, and some latency for
refueling, but i heard on NPR they were above the cir doing about 75 in a 70
mile/h zone.
That said, I have been on this site for about 4 months and enjoy all the
different personalities. If we were all at a party and just hanging out we
wouldn't want to listen to the same questions. I think the technical term
for that is dribble. I know what you are going to say, this is a site
dedicated to cisco certification and support and that is correct, but we are
all different people with different personalities, and since we all come
here every day shouldn't the regulars get to know each other. Another line
of reasoning is, all three of the names in this send (you, chuck, pris) have
contributed much lucent and accurate information on various topics, I feel
that gives some topic freedom. It is not the ranting of a guy who wants to
know what is a good book for CCNA studies.
There was a question the other day on "Is there anything after CCIE
comparable to achieve". What are your goals, maybe seeing a movie, taking a
bowling lesson, sanding wood, collecting seashells, I swear I could open a
clinic for CED (certification egress disorder) and make a fortune. have a
little sylvan prometric in the back, just to play both ends while you are
recovering. :>)
Disclaimer: This is not a comprehensive list of accurate and lucent
regulars, so if you aren't mentioned please don't take offense, you know who
you are.
Duck
----- Original Message -----
From: William Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Chuck Larrieu' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Priscilla Oppenheimer'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: O/T ballots-per-second musings
> I am sorry, but can you please take this off line?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Larrieu
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 9:00 PM
> To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: O/T ballots-per-second musings
>
>
> Less buggy systems? What, and put us all out of work? ;->
>
> Technology is like the tax code.... The more perfect you try to make it,
the
> more work it creates for those whose job it is to guide people through it.
>
> Uh uh. I say throw out the machines and go back to quill pen and
parchment.
> I mean, consider that with such primitive tools were written the Magna
> Carta, the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, the English
> Bill of rights, the Gettysburg Address.
>
> Take a look around your local Walden Books to see the output of our
current
> technology. I mean, is there anyone who will argue that Isaac Asimov's
> writing improved after he started using word processors instead of
> typewriters?
>
> By the way, do you all realize that in the very first presidential
election
> in this country, in a nation of nine million people, voters could choose
> among George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin
> Franklin, John Jay, John Adams.
>
> Today, in a nation of a quarter of a billion, we get to choose among Gore,
> Bush, Nader, and Buchanan. This of course proves that Darwin was wrong.
> old joke, but works even better than it did 30 years ago ;-> )
>
> As for what we do - routers make the internet happen, the internet in turn
> supposedly makes it possible for us to communicate better, and we still
have
> people on this list asking how many questions are on the test and what's
the
> passing score.
>
> So much for the "information" age.
>
> Guess I should go back to my studying. Curmudgeons need not apply.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: O/T ballots-per-second musings
>
> Has anyone figured out the ballots-per-second (bps) transmission rate for
> the ballots that travelled in a Ryder truck from Palm Beach County to
> Tallahassee? &;-)
>
> Seriously, do we recognize how ridiculous this situation is? With current
> technology, the data should have arrived in seconds. We seem to have
> scraped by the year 2000 without any major disasters caused by Y2K bugs.
> However, the year 2000 election is a victim of ancient, buggy punch-card
> readers. I call this the E2K problem.
>
> The punch card readers in Miami-Dade County were unable to detect a vote
> for president on 10,000 ballots. That's outrageous! Regardless of any
> political wrangling about the significance of this problem, as computer
> professionals, we should be asking ourselves, how could this happen?
>
> We now have two kinds of proof (Y2K and E2K) that we need to take a more
> active role in working with our users to dump ancient systems and upgrade
> to newer and less buggy solutions. That's not an easy task, of course.
> Finances, office politics, and risk aversion are just some of the many
> reasons that users don't upgrade. But what are we doing to be more
> proactive? Are we monitoring our systems to determine their fragility? Are
> we taking action when we recognize potential problems? Are we designing
> reliable systems that can adapt to changes? Or are we hiding behind our
> 21-inch monitors and praying that nothing bad will happen on our shift?
>
> I'd like to see the computer industry get serious about developing less
> buggy systems and upgrading legacy systems that are failure-prone. I'd
> welcome a technical (non-political) discussion on this topic. Thanks for
> listening to my ravings. &;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
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>
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