1. I think you should talk to a Systems Engineer, not
Sales Engineer.

2. 6500 switch doesn't fit in your network doesn't
mean Foundry is better; likewise this sale guy is
idiot doesn't mean all sales guys at Cisco are idiots.

I say this because I'm very happy with Cisco SEs. I've
worked with at least 15 of Cisco SEs, most of them are
kind, helpful and knowledgeable.

Just my opion.


Jim

--- Kenneth Lorenzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Is it just me or is it that Sales engineers at Cisco
> try to sell stuff that
> they don't even know will fit right for the
> environment at which the Cisco
> stuff are to be installed. Take for instance, I
> invited a Sales engineer to
> come over our office this morning showing him what
> our network looks like.
> We have about 170 users connected to HP 4000
> Switches. Anyway, this guy
> walks in, tells me that "oh, this is not the best
> solution. The best
> solution is to go with a pair of 6500 Catalyst
> switches for redundancy with
> an intergrated router and VLANs blah blah blah".
> 
> It seems like he just got off a class about 6500 and
> he was inspired to sell
> it to us using every acronymn he heard at the
> training class. $12000 MSRP
> for a 48 port 10/100 is not exactly a selling point
> when it comes to
> comparing prices with either HP or Foundry. This guy
> doesn't even know that
> 6500s aren't normally implemented in the Access
> Layer unless we have some
> spare $100,000 to throw around!
> 
> Just because they work for Cisco doesn't mean
> they're network engineers!
> Whew,... that felt good. I needed to vent a little.
> 
> Now, I look forward to Monday when I'm supposed to
> meet with a CCIE who
> works for Foundry...
> 
> Kenneth
> 
> 
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