>I read a bit of callousness in Lauren's approach,
>but I agree with the general idea Lauren proposes.
>I have sent out similar emails to people who waste
>my time, instead of doing a bit of research. I also
>oppose the use of "shorthand" english in public emails.
>It is offputting, so I tend to ignore those people
>entirely.
I, too, have a real problem with 3l33t d00dz and the like--whether
it's meant to be the private language of an in-group (i.e., the
previous example being Elite Dudes) or simply a way of avoiding
typing. Believe me, I know there's a value for cryptic typing in
bandwidth-constrained interactions such as telecommunications devices
for the deaf (TDD), or old-style UNIX chat on machines with 300 bps
connections. But the "shorthand" in no way improves readability, and,
in my perhaps crotchety view, sends a message that the typist's time
is more valuable than that of the reader. As the reader, that leaves
me less than enchanted.
>
>But, Howard, aren't you being a little too cryptic?
>The commons obviously is the listserv. But who are
>putting too many sheep out? Lauren (and me, I guess,
>by association with that point of view), or all the
>others who criticize?
>
>Or both sides? I agree, it is time to end this thread.
Baaaaaa, humbug, he said, sheepishly.
>
>Ray Mosely
>CCNA, MCSE
>
>BTW, Howard, our first communiques ended up with you
>bashing me. Thank you, sincerely, because I was humbled.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Howard C. Berkowitz
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Tragedy of the Commons (was Thought youd enjoy this
>
>
>There's a basic concept in economic theory called the "tragedy of the
>commons." The commons, in this case, was a shared pasture in which
>the village livestock could graze. As long as the number of cattle
>fit the basic needs of each family, the commons provided enough
>grazing land for all.
>
>But less cooperative people decided that they could increase their
>personal profits by having more cows and sheep. Nothing wrong with
>that -- except the also expected to pasture them on the common land,
>rather than set up private pastures for private herds and flocks.
>
>The commons, however, had just so much capacity, and, when it was
>overgrazed by the additional beasts, the grass could no longer
>recover, and the entire resource died. Nothing could graze any
>longer.
>
>Information based on people's time is a modern version. It takes
>time to scan a list for irrelevant messages, especially when people
>don't use informative subject headings. Outside North America, there
>is often a monetary cost to downloading more and more material that
>may not be of interest.
>
>So yes -- when people ask questions that could be answered with
>reasonable use of a search engine, I get a bit annoyed. CCO, I
>realize, can be uncooperative, and I am sympathetic to people who say
>"I tried to find this on CCO but didn't get anything useful."
>
>There is no question that I'm usually rude to telemarketers.
>Sometimes, they whine that they won't take much of my time. But I
>really try to create a hostile work environment for telemarketers,
>because if encouraged, they will waste so much of my time that I
>won't be able to earn money to buy their products.
>
>Hopefully, my parable may convey something about effective and fair
>use of lists.
>
>>Lauren Child wrote,
>
>
>
>>"Roberts, Timothy" wrote:
>> >
>>> Obviously english is not this persons first language. Why should this
>>> person be made fun of because he has not fully mastered it yet?
>>>
>>
>>He shouldnt. He should be made fun of for having an MCSE and CCNA, and
>>working for CCNP, and not mastering the search engine.
>
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