Actually, Jason, a PIX will route. The only problem is that it is not
designed to do it (there are no WAN interfaces available for it.) And as
such is not very scalable. How do you plan on moving traffic if you have 6
to 10 interfaces with 6 to 10  different networks in a PIX? You use STATIC
routes.

Tim


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Firewalls and VPNs


As someone said yesterday: The PIX will not route, period.  It will NAT
(including NAT 0), but it will not route packets between different networks.
If you need routing off any interface on a PIX, you need a router there.

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"anthony kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> A device can best be described by its chief function. You can use a
> PIX as a router, just allow everything through. In fact you can use a
> router as a firewall, be selective with access lists. Terminology is
> flexible as long as you're pragmatic about function.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:52:06AM -0800, Dan West wrote:
> >PIX - sounds like a router to me - packet forwarding
> >based on layer 3 addressing. It has extra security
> >features and all of a sudden it's a
> >firewall...marketing fluff? or accurate description???
> >who will uncover this mystery????  ;>
> >
> >--- mtieast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I think this comes from the fact that cisco
> >> instructors in class say that
> >> the Pix is not a router. I have heard this as well
> >> when I had the class.
> >>
> >> I know the Pix is not a router, but does it route?
> >> Well, if making decisions
> >> about where to send traffic based on layer 3 info is
> >> routing then I would
> >> argue it does route. It does not forward traffic
> >> based on layer 2 info so
> >> ......
> >>
> >> It routes traffic to the appropriate interface. Can
> >> someone else shed some
> >> light as to why this is said. If it doesn't route
> >> the traffic it recieves
> >> what does it do?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: haroldnjoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:41 PM
> >> Subject: Firewalls and VPNs
> >>
> >>
> >> >I've read here a couple of times that PIX's don't
> >> route. Period. In light
> >> of
> >> >this I'm left a little confused as to a proposed
> >> network map I was given
> >> >recently.
> >> >
> >> >The core layer router is a 3640 linking all of our
> >> branch offices together.
> >> >From the 3640, there is an ethernet connection to a
> >> PIX 515R.  From the
> >> PIX,
> >> >there is another ethernet connection to a 1750
> >> router. The 1750 connects
> >> via
> >> >T1 to our ISP.  There is yet another ethernet
> >> connection from the PIX to
> >> the
> >> >isolation lan, on which resides an internet
> >> mail/web server and a VPN 3000
> >> >concentrator.
> >> >
> >> >If PIX's don't route, what subnet is the isolation
> >> lan going to sit on?  As
> >> >I understand it, the PIX will be providing NAT
> >> functionality for the 3640
> >> >and everything behind it.  So I would assume that
> >> the T1 and ethernet
> >> >interfaces on the 1750, the outside interfaces on
> >> the PIX, and everything
> >> in
> >> >the isolation lan including the VPN concentrator
> >> will have to have public
> >> IP
> >> >addresses which will be given to us by our ISP.
> >> The way the map is layed
> >> >out, it looks to me like the isolation lan would
> >> have to be on its own
> >> >subnet.
> >> >
> >> >What am I missing?  If the PIX doesn't route, do
> >> it's ethernet interfaces
> >> >reside on the same subnet as the isolation lan?  If
> >> so, then the ethernet
> >> >interface on the 1750 must also be on that subnet,
> >> right?
> >> >
> >> >This is the proposed network map that Cisco's
> >> presale engineers gave me.
> >> >I'm sure it's a solid design, but I'm still trying
> >> to work out the details
> >> >so that I understand what I'm implementing (always
> >> a good thing, I think).
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for your time,
> >> >
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