I agree.  In fact I proposed that to the client but they haven't acted on it
yet.  Isolating the heartbeat would be the best of both worlds.

Darren

At 03:10 AM 05/14/2001 -0400, stephen wrote:
>Hi,
>I feel if u have a switch which supports VLAN, you can keep the NIC's of the
>2 nodes which were supposed to be connected by a cross over cable could be
>kept in a separate VLAN thus u could avoid the broadcast.
>I feel if i have a product supporting VLAN that would be a better
>alternative
>
>regards
>rstephenp
>
>
>""Bill Pearch""  wrote in message
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>> Breaking things is bad.  I pull my suggestion and have bookmarked the page
>> for future reference.
>> TTFN,
>> Bill
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Darren Crawford
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 5/10/2001 9:10 AM
>> Subject: RE: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]
>>
>> A word of caution here.  Per the documentation I pulled down figuring
>> this
>> out,
>> the crossover cable solution causes load balancing not to work.  See
>> Article
>> ID: Q242248 - http: // support. microsoft. com/ support/ kb /
>> articles/Q242/2/48.ASP  (NOTE: spaces inserted to avoid URL striping).
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> p.s. I have a Word document with several of these articles which I will
>> send
>> to
>> anyone who's interested.
>>
>> At 09:49 PM 05/09/2001 -0800, Bill Pearch wrote:
>> >One possible solution to this issue that was practiced early in the
>> wolfpack
>> >development was to have a nic in each cluster node that was connected
>> via
>> >cross over cable to the other node.  By having a pair of NIC's
>> dedicated to
>> >heartbeat we can avoid having the heartbeat flood the network.
>> >TTFN,
>> >Bill in Anchorage
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Darren Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:26 AM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: Re: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]
>> >
>> >
>> >I ran into this same problem at my current client.  Apparently this is
>> a
>> >necessary evil in a NT clustered environment for load balancing and
>> fault
>> >tolerancy.  There are two 1,514 byte packets sent every second by
>> default.
>> >One
>> >to the MAC of the NIC and the other to the multicast address.  The size
>> of
>> >these packets cannot be adjusted but the interval of how often they
>> occur
>> >can.   The heartbeat can be set between 100 and 10000 milliseconds
>> (default
>> >is
>> >1000).  The time period before the device is determined dead can be set
>> >between
>> >5 and 100 (default is 5).
>> >
>> >We did the following:
>> >
>> >Registry items alivestatus (aka AliveMsgPeriod) and aliveperiod (aka
>> >AliveMsgTolerance) were changed to 10000 and 9 respectively.  What this
>> >meant on
>> >the network was that there were only 6 pairs of heartbeats per minute
>> >instead
>> >of 60.
>> >
>> >This should be adjusted based on the organizations tolerance of a
>> failure.
>> >
>> >HTH
>> >
>> >Darren
>> >
>> >At 12:47 AM 05/09/2001 -0400, Andy Prima wrote:
>> >>Dear all,
>> >>I need help on protocol type 0x886F. It seems that this kind of
>> Ethernet
>> >>Broadcast is circling around my network and I do not have a clue what
>> it
>> >>really is.
>> >>
>> >>TIA
>> >>andy
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