As I am with Lucent, who is also an active player and competitor of Nortel,
in the optical arena:
http://www.lucent.com/press/0501/010515.nsb.html
""Howard C. Berkowitz"" wrote in message
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> >On a related subject that Howard brought up regarding GMPLS what does
> >everyone think of Cisco's decision to dump the 15900 Wavelength Router?
It
> >was slated to be one of the first commercial Multi Protocol Lambda
Switching
> >boxes using SRP however, on April 4th it suddenly dissappeared from
Cisco's
> >web site. They've stated that due to the economy it was not profitable
to
> >continue development of that product and that Cisco would instead pursue
> >more immediate demands such as metro DWDM.
> >
> >In my opinion removing yourself from the Lambda Switching market is not a
> >wise direction for the future. The idea of unifying the intelligence and
> >services of todays layer 3 (and up) boxes with the speed and redundancy
of
> >next-generation optical platforms is extremely profitable in the near
> >future. This should be where the market leaders in networking spend most
of
> >their R&D on. I've heard Lucent and Nortel (among many others) are very
> >active in developing intelligent optical switching.
> >
> >Any other opinions?
>
> Yes, Nortel is very active. Since I'm directly involved in Nortel
> product planning, I am reluctant to speculate in public who should be
> doing what. But GMPLS certainly seems to be one important trend, but
> routing won't remplace it -- and vice versa.
>
> >
> >-Michael Cohen
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >David Chandler
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:49 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Does MPLS really live up to all its hype? [7:6151]
> >
> >
> >of those functions already has an established (and often better)
> >solution. Would any vendor be recommending MPLS if it did not require
> >an upgrade? $$$$$
> >
> >
> >I vote: Floor Wax.... :->
> >
> >
> >PS: Where can I find the article?
> >
> >DaveC
> >
> >
> >
> >Irwin Lazar wrote:
> >>
> >> A collegue of mine wrote an article some time back entitled "MPLS:
Desert
> >> Toping or Floor Wax"
> >>
> >> MPLS originally was created to solve the problem of slow,
software-based
> >> routers. Hardware-based (aka Layer 3 switches) routers alleviated
that
> >> requirement. Since then MPLS is being used for all sorts of different
> >> functions including:
> >>
> >> - traffic engineering
> >> - IP-based virtual private networks
> >> - L2 encapsulation within L3 networks
> >> - Reservation of L1/2 resources by L3-based control mechanisms
> >>
> >> IMHO, the basic goal of MPLS is to converge the various L1/2-specific
> >> control mechanisms into a single, unified control plane capable of
> >> provisioning and managing a path across a packet-based network
> >> infrastructure. But who knows where we will be in five years.
> >>
> >> Irwin
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: David Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:07 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: Does MPLS really live up to all its hype? [7:6151]
> >>
> >> No Way!!!
> >>
> >> The Marketing people NEVER exagerate..... :->
> >>
> >> MPLS does seem like a solution to a problem that was fixed some time
> >> ago...ie: fast-switching, CEF etc...
> >>
> >> DaveC
> >>
> >> NRF wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Mr. Berkowitz, please read this post and respond.
> >> >
> >> > Okay, I am going to run the risk of starting a religious war here.
But
> >I
> >> do
> >> > have to ask, is MPLS really as great as people say?
> >> >
> >> > I know many people, on newsgroups and in real-life, champion MPLS as
> the
> >> > perfect answer to the problems of the core Internet. Faster IP
> >> forwarding,
> >> > traffic engineering, VPN capabilities, etc., it seems to have some
> >> powerful
> >> > features. No doubt, this attitude is sparked by Juniper, which is
> >using
> >> > MPLS as a strategic weapon against Cisco, and since Juniper keeps
> eating
> >> > Cisco's lunch, it stands to reason that MPLS has something to do
with
> >it.
> >> > In fact, many network engineers treat MPLS as nothing less than the
> holy
> >> > grail.
> >> >
> >> > But I wonder if the hype has begun to outstrip reality.
> >> >
> >> > For example, as a response to the LightReading test, Bill St. Arnaud
of
> >> the
> >> > Canadian carrier Canarie states "The MPLS [multiprotocol label
> >switching]
> >> > throughput results confirmed our suspicions that MPLS does not buy
you
> >> much
> >> > except a big management headache. True, the throughput is higher,
but
> >not
> >> > significantly higher than IP forwarding"
> >> > http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=testing&doc_id=3909
> >> >
> >> > And even the idea of higher throughput has been questioned by the
> mother
> >> of
> >> > all networking, Radia Perlman:
> >> > " Originally [MPLS] was designed to make it possible to build fast
> >> routers,
> >> > but then, using techniques such as [trie searches, parallelism,
K-ary
> >> > searches] people built routers fast enough on native IP packets. So
> now
> >> > MPLS is thought to be mostly a technique for classifying the type of
> >> packet
> >> > for quality of service or for assigning routes for traffic
> >engineering..."
> >> > (Interconnections, 2nd Ed., p. 347-348). And I think we would all
> agree
> >> > that anything Ms. Perlman says must be given serious weight.
> >> >
> >> > So I must ask, does MPLS really live up to all the hype? Is it
really
> >the
> >> > greatest thing since sliced bread? How much of MPLS really is an
> >> > improvement on today's network, and how much of it is just a bunch
of
> >> > (probably Juniper) marketing bullshi*? Has any company ever worked
for
> >a
> >> > company that evaluated MPLS and then decided not to use it, and if
so,
> >> what
> >> > were the reasons?
> >> >
> >> > Thanx for all the non-flame responses
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