the research I did in thinking about this question a bit more deeply led me
to the 802.1x port authentication issue.

is it correct that Microsoft turns on everything under the sun by default,
and leaves it to the befuddled LAN admins and bedeviled help desk and
desktop support people to figure out why things all of a sudden are broken?

Chuck

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Priscilla Oppenheimer
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I wish that Networking 101 was required in schools. Then even the
Management by Business Week types would know about the 7 layers and that
the operating system, which generally deals with local file management and
I/O, should not matter when considering traffic going through routers and
switches.

In actuality, there may be issues because the TCP/IP stack and other
protocols are part of the operating system and they could be buggy, but if
they are standard and not buggy, then there shouldn't be an issue.

I don't mean to flame the person that asked. It can't hurt to do some
research, and there was that one bug with 802.1x security and Catalyst 5000
switches connecting PCs running Windows XP, but that kind of thing
shouldn't happen. On the other hand, both Cisco and Microsoft like to take
simple concepts (like bridging, etc.) and make them so complicated that
bugs are bound to happen.

We run an ISP among other things. I wish that our users would take the
basic networking class also. This morning someone called and said she had
an error message about running out of server space. So I talked to her
about not keeping mail on the server. She said, "you mean I can't keep
messages in my In Box?" Sigh. Networking 101 would have a short section on
client/server architecture too.

Sorry for the babbling. Haven't had my latte yet.....

Priscilla




At 12:05 AM 8/21/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>I'm sure you've had your fair share of smart remarks by now. So I won't add
>my own. I will remark that in fairness to your boss, there is probably
>something he has heard or read which caused him to look for reassurance.
>
>for example, is there a concern with VPN compatibility of operation using
>Win XP VPN client software? is there a security concern based upon
published
>writings about the XP TCP stack?
>
>if the question is "will Cisco routers pass traffic generated by XP
>machines?" the answer is "sure. why not" after all, there is nothing in an
>IP or a TCP header that indicates the type of host OS that originates the
>packet. as long as the traffic is contained in valid packets, the router
>will pass process them. knowing that, may I recommend you sit down with the
>boss and ask what his concerns are. what has he read? what has he heard?
why
>would he think there is reason to be concerned? hell, he could be a victim
>of MBBW ( Management By Business Week - where the president of the company
>saw something in Business Week Magazine over the weekend and on Monday
>morning told your boss to investigate and come back with report. ;->
>
>( and yes, I know some bosses are "she" )
>
>Chuck
>
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Ray Smith
>Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 5:38 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]
>
>
>Guys,
>
>After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to
>upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
Windows-XP,
>I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a bug
in
>the switch software that is incompatible with XP.
>
>Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me with
>compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out there
>knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from
>literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.
>
>The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which
>occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's network.  I
>understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in addition to
>the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -
>
>a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or with
the
>router IOS as
>      well?
>
>b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?
>
>I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks
>
>
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