The answer is Yes, you can be a paper CCNP.

I just turned CCNP last week and I have never touched a router before.  Have
never logged into a router, not used any router simulator software.  (Yes I
know how a router looked like from the pictures I've seen.)  Neither did i
cheat by using brain dumps.

All the information for passing the exams only came from the 4 Sybex books
(routing, switching, support, RA)  Not trying to be proud here, but a paper
CCNP is possible.

Will take my written CCIE soon.  As for the lab exam, hmm... we shall see...

Cheers, Eve
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Christopher Supino
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:02 AM
  Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]


  Consider them rolled.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  B.J. Wilson
  Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:18 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]


  I heard that cert was still in Draft stage.

  (insert collective eye-roll here.)


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Christopher Supino"
  To:
  Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:06 PM
  Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]


  > Nice Chuck. Don't forget to add CFTA(Certified Flush Toilet
  Administrator),
  > and MCBD(Miller Certified Beer Drinker).
  >
  > :)
  >
  > Chris
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:22 PM
  > To: Christopher Supino; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  > Christopher Supino
  > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
  >
  > When did CCIE Written become a certification? I take serious issue with
  > engineers who do this. It only adds to the cheapening of the cert. Pass
  your
  > lab, get your number, call yourself a CCIE. Til then, you are a CCNP,
  CCDP.
  > My two cents.
  >
  > CL: about the same time the CCNP 2.0 became a certification. Some people
  > will do anything to make themselves look better
  >
  > Chuck
  > primary school diploma, high school diploma, Universal Life Church
  minister
  > Costco GoldStar Member, United Mileage Plus member, Calif. State AAA
  member
  > should I join the NRA and look tough too? ;->
  >
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  > ahmed adil
  > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:00 PM
  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
  >
  >
  > Just cant do it without a router
  >
  > Ahmed
  > CCIE Written CCNP CCDP MCSE
  >
  > ""Dan Faulk""  wrote in message
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  > > Having recently just passed CCNP this year I will say you must have a
  > > Router.
  > > The reason is that the prescribed rituals must be performed in front of
  > the
  > > Router.
  > > Without a Router the powerful spirit of routing, BGPOSPF, wont bless
  your
  > > efforts and even if you do pass all knowledge will be removed from you
  > > within 2 months. Some have said scrificing your most valuable possesion
  > > before the router helps. I give it my time which seemed to work well.
  > Others
  > > have given the Router spirit money, bought it accessories, even food
but
  > so
  > > far time works best.
  > > Hope this helps and smile cause TGIF!!
  > >
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
D
  > > Rick
  > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:57 AM
  > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > Subject: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18107]
  > >
  > >
  > > Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears?  I'm doing practice test from
  > > Boson and doing the Sybex study guide?  Is that sufficient?  Do I need
  to
  > be
  > > in front of a router?
  > >
  > > Thanks in advance,
  > > Rick D




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