Good question. I'm still trying to find out why.
Perhaps I'm just sick & tired of my colleagues looking down upon my
capabilities (being a female in this industry tends to be belittled by
others,
you see, esp in my part of the world.) Even the examination centers officers
are puzzled to see me taking Cisco exams, when they would expect only guys to
do such things.
I'm being treated like a female clerk at the system integrator firm where I
worked, being excluded out of all technical discussions because the guys just
think "gee what do YOU know about this router/switch/firewall thing??" (For
your reference, I've got a degree in Electrical Engineering, degree in
Commerce, MCSE, etc etc). Is sexual discrimation prevalent everywhere in
this
IT industry, or just at my place?
Guess I took my CCNP simply out of pride, just to show that "whatever you
guys
can do, I can do too."
And perhaps, out of pride too, I will take my CCIE.
Regards, Eve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeroen Timmer
To: 'jap_e'
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
Why even bother to be CCNP or CCIE when you never touch a router ?!?!
It's not my concern what you do, or don't, but it just looked funny to me.
Gaining CCNP without playing around with routers and stuff ? Why you wanna
become CCNP ?
grtz,
JT
-----Original Message-----
From: jap_e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
The answer is Yes, you can be a paper CCNP.
I just turned CCNP last week and I have never touched a router before.
Have
never logged into a router, not used any router simulator software. (Yes I
know how a router looked like from the pictures I've seen.) Neither did i
cheat by using brain dumps.
All the information for passing the exams only came from the 4 Sybex books
(routing, switching, support, RA) Not trying to be proud here, but a paper
CCNP is possible.
Will take my written CCIE soon. As for the lab exam, hmm... we shall
see...
Cheers, Eve
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Supino
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
Consider them rolled.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
B.J. Wilson
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
I heard that cert was still in Draft stage.
(insert collective eye-roll here.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Supino"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
> Nice Chuck. Don't forget to add CFTA(Certified Flush Toilet
Administrator),
> and MCBD(Miller Certified Beer Drinker).
>
> :)
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:22 PM
> To: Christopher Supino; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Christopher Supino
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
>
> When did CCIE Written become a certification? I take serious issue with
> engineers who do this. It only adds to the cheapening of the cert. Pass
your
> lab, get your number, call yourself a CCIE. Til then, you are a CCNP,
CCDP.
> My two cents.
>
> CL: about the same time the CCNP 2.0 became a certification. Some
people
> will do anything to make themselves look better
>
> Chuck
> primary school diploma, high school diploma, Universal Life Church
minister
> Costco GoldStar Member, United Mileage Plus member, Calif. State AAA
member
> should I join the NRA and look tough too? ;->
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> ahmed adil
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
>
>
> Just cant do it without a router
>
> Ahmed
> CCIE Written CCNP CCDP MCSE
>
> ""Dan Faulk"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Having recently just passed CCNP this year I will say you must have a
> > Router.
> > The reason is that the prescribed rituals must be performed in front
of
> the
> > Router.
> > Without a Router the powerful spirit of routing, BGPOSPF, wont bless
your
> > efforts and even if you do pass all knowledge will be removed from
you
> > within 2 months. Some have said scrificing your most valuable
possesion
> > before the router helps. I give it my time which seemed to work well.
> Others
> > have given the Router spirit money, bought it accessories, even food
but
> so
> > far time works best.
> > Hope this helps and smile cause TGIF!!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
D
> > Rick
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18107]
> >
> >
> > Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? I'm doing practice test
from
> > Boson and doing the Sybex study guide? Is that sufficient? Do I
need
to
> be
> > in front of a router?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Rick D
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