I don't know specific numbers, but I do know that Pacific Bell stopped
selling "dark fiber" when they finally figured out it was worth a lot more
than they were charging for it. ;->

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Mark Odette II
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what does "dark fiber" mean? [7:18718]


So- Just out of curiousity- Anybody have a rough amt. that "Dark Fiber" runs
for??  Is it dependent upon the mileage, or is it rated out at a flat
monthly fee.

You'ld think that if it was only a couple hundred bucks a month, that all
kinds of ISP startups would be using it to put their infrastructure
together, and just have a specific site as their gateway to an upstream
provider.
Tell me if I'm coockoo about this theory.

Mark Odette II
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Ramsey"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: what does "dark fiber" mean? [7:18718]


> Close...
>
> Actually it's dark when nothing is attached, but it remain's "dark" even
when
> CPE is attached.
>
> Dark fiber, the term is used by providers meaning that they lease you
fiber
> that does not traverse their network.  So technically, you can run
anything
> across it as you wish.
>
> Take this example... I have a sonet ring from a local carrier and it is
> attached to their ATM infrastructure at 155mb.  they (the carrier) are not
> really lighting the fiber but since it is a sonet node it is limited to
ATM.
> (Or packet over sonet) but you still only get the bandwidth you pay for.
>
> However, if I purchase "dark" fiber meaning that it is not lit by the
> carrier,
> then I can run ATM across it at oc3, oc12, oc48, oc192, etc.... OR I can
run
> 100fx or gig across it... However much money I feel like spending on the
> equipment is what will run across it.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
> >>> "Tony van Ree"  09/06/01 06:24PM >>>
> Hi,
>
> Dark fibre is when you have, buy or rent a fibre cable that is terminated
> but has no equipment connected.  Devices using fibre have either infra red
> or laser light thus making the cale non "dark".
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Teunis,
> Hobart, Tasmania
> Australia
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:16:07 PM, david wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > david
> --
> www.tasmail.com




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