I think a major motivation of a lot of "silent lurkers" (like myself) and those who actively participate on this list is to benefit from the comments of such great industry stalwarts such as Howard Berkowitz, Priscilla Oppenheimer, Pamela Forsyth, etc, etc,. They always enrich their comments with their experience, and Howard Berkowitz also adds spice to it with his wit and humour. I have read almost all his books and would recommend them to everyone seeking in-depth knowledge of networks. I think he has got a unique flair for writing. It would be a sad day for me if someone drives them off this list with their uncouth comments.
I would also name some more persons such as Chuck Larrieu, Elijah Savage, Brad Ellis, Kent Hundley, Keyur Shah, etc (and the list goes on ....) whose insights from real hands-on experiences, coupled with their marvellous ability to explain things, has greatly benefitted this list. I wish everyone a Happy New Year and greater opportunities in the years ahead. Aziz S. Islam Sr. Infrastructure Splst.- CCIE(R/S) Design Engineering EDS Canada Inc. 33 Yonge Street, Suite 400 Toronto, Ontario M3A 2R6 CANADA Ph:(416)814-1696 Fx:(416)814-1821 http://www.eds.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why use wildcard mask [7:30473] Speaking only for myself, I look forward to your wit and wisdom when providing us wannabees with the knowledge we so desperately seek. While you're at it, can you provide us with a list of the RFC's you have written? And the books? I'd like to check them out. Anything to improve my own understanding of how things work. Best wishes, Chuck ""Cisco Cisco"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Howard, > If you actually worked on a router in the real world > rather than just tell people you do, you would know > that Cisco has supported access-list remarks for some > time now. > > Oh I'm sure you're going to reply to this e-mail with > some stupid story like, "This reminds me when I was > talking to a developer at Apple about Mac OS 1.0 but I > had never really worked on an Apple" or some worthless > story like that. > > Also do us all a favor and quit cross posting from > other mailing list. We don't want to see your replies > to the juniper and ccie mailing list posts. Cross > posting can be dangerous when you're on some of the > list the you are on.... wink, wink ;-) > > > ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" wrote: > > > >Yes, it does make simple tasks a little more > complicated. However, using > > >inverse masking can make complex tasks much easier. > > > > > >Take this issue. Say you are asked to filter access > to all odd 192.168.x.0 > > >/24 routes. > > > > > > > > >Your method. > > > > > >192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 > > >192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 > > >192.168.5.0 255.255.255.0 > > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > > > > I see your approach, Marc, and I have even > encountered real-world > > situations where such filtering might be > appropriate. It happened > > when an enterprise wanted to "leave room for > expansion", but didn't > > understand summarization. They assigned > odd-numbered subnets to > > different sites/areas, thinking the even ones would > be for future use. > > > > My approach, incidentally, is to figure out the > number of potential > > areas or sites, then divide by a power of 2, at > least 4, to be > > summarization-friendly. > > > > There's no question that your approach takes fewer > lines of code. > > Personally, I wouldn't use it except in a huge > network where there > > was no other way to fit that many lines into NVRAM. > > > > My motivation for not doing so is maintainability. > The more complex > > the mask, the more difficult it will be for some > subsequent > > administrator to figure out what was being done. I > might be more > > open to the idea if Cisco saved comments with the > configuration, but, > > of course, it doesn't. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=30541&t=30473 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]