This sounds like it may be a 'flag' on the line.  Some of these old telco
lines were originally only used for voice, and when a line is re-used the
outside plant tech might just tap into a line leaving a long un-used flag or
tail on the line.  This was ok for voice, but for T1 or above it acts line a
huge antannae and causes problems.

One way to verify this is to always run the following BERT patterns before
accepting a circuit for a minimum of 3 minutes each.  (or require the telco
to do it for you)

all-ones
1:7
2 in 8
3 in 24
QRSS
All-Zeroes (if B8ZS)

Jeff
Senior Telecom Tech
CCNP


""Erich Kuehn""  wrote in message
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> I just finished testing with the lec (XO), while they could run clean to
the
> NIU, they had a problem running quazi to the csu. Finally I think they
will
> be taking some responsiblility for the issue.
>
> Thanks for everyones input,
>
> Im learing way more about Layer 1 than I care to, but then again isnt
> knowledge, power!???
>
> Thanks
>
> Erich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Serial Line problems [7:31426]
>
>
> If it was a crossed pair somewhere, it wouln't come up at all.  No
carrier.
>
> It can very well be bad dmarc extensions, but so many all at once.  Is it
> all in one area of the state/city?  Could still be bad telco wiring if in
> same area of CO.
>
> I believe that the customer of yours receive timing on the CO, not your
> frame-switch, even though your souce is supposed to be higher.  Are you
not
> synced with the telco switch or the USNO?
>
> Maybe someone else can speak about the avail banwidth output, but I just
> checked a T1 frame module, and I have the same output, so I don't think
it's
> that.  I'll look that one up though.
>
> I'd still focus on the timing.
>
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