I have a similar impression of the book.  While it is very useful and
has lots of good information, it is littered with typos and minor errors
that you *should* be able to spot.  I'm hoping they'll get an errata
posted soon, but I wouldn't count on it happening too quickly.

>>> "R. Benjamin Kessler"  1/17/02 10:21:29
AM >>>
I have a couple of "nit-picky" complaints about the book (as I do
about
almost every book I read).  There are some typo's as a previous poster
indicated.  One of my biggest pet peeves is the use of the term
"continuous"
when the author (probably) means "contiguous" - one sees this most
often
when discussing OSPF.  Note, this book isn't unique in this mis-use of
the
term; there are many CCO documents that also make this "error."  I'm
assuming that this is the product of a spell-checker that didn't know
the
term contiguous, suggested continuous and someone hit "replace all." 
Before
the flame-war starts, I know that these two words have *similar*
meanings
but in this case I - my personal opinion - think that contiguous is
'more
right' - besides, it's the term used in the RFC.

Since I'm picking nits; the author indicates that the OSPF process ID
on a
router should be thought of "as an Autonomous System ID.  This number
should
be the same on all routers within the autonomous system."  Per CCO,
this is
a locally significant setting used only to distinguish between multiple
OSPF
routing process on a particular router.  If we were to apply the
RFC2119
definition of "should" to this statement one might think that certain
problems may occur if this practice wasn't followed.  I don't believe
this
to be the case but I'm sure someone on the list will correct me if I'm
wrong.  There's nothing wrong with using the same process ID on all of
your
OSPF routers; I would guess that networks are configured that way more
often
than not; but isn't a requirement.  Given that the lab exam is all
about
splitting hairs to the most minute detail and knowing the various
protocols
in depth, it probably should have been noted (as in other texts) that
two
adjacent routers can have different process IDs configured.

There are some outright mistakes in the book - I just checked the
CiscoPress
site for an errata and didn't see one yet.  Here one that I recall off
the
top of my head:

EIGRP - (p.691) at the bottom of the page, the 'distance' command.
- this is almost a direct copy/paste from the IGRP chapter; does not
include
the required information to change the admin distance of the EIGRP
routing
process (which requires both an internal and external distance); it
only
lists the syntax to change the distance of a specific neighbor's
updates.  I
find it funny that the EIGRP chapter says "For a specific example and
more
practice with the 'distance' command, see" the IGRP chapter.  When you
look
at the IGRP chapter, it uses the same sentence to point you to the RIP
chapter.

Anyone who has walked into an EIGRP network with multiple, unfiltered
redistribution points into a RIP domain will know first-hand the
importance
of knowing how a router handles internal vs. external EIGRP routes.

Additionally, I thought the section on PPP authentication could have
used
some more work on the one-way authentication options (both PAP and
CHAP).

Bottom-line, this seems to be a well written book; it gives you some
good
examples and labs to work on your own, etc.  It won't replace any of
the
other "must haves" on the bookshelf (e.g. Doyle, Caslow, Thomas, etc.)
and
unfortunately, (as it seems with all of the books published these days)
you
have to play 'reporter' and verify the information in the book with
some
other source (CCO, RFCs, other texts) - this is a topic I could rant on
for
quite some time (considering the $thousands - literally - I've spent
on
training materials which contain errors).

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Just got my copy.

Reading the "About the Authors" section alone is impressive. All those
associated with the book are CCIE's. I look forward to discovering if
there
are any errors in the book. One would hope not, given the credentials
of the
writers and reviewers, one of whom was the Halifax Lab Proctor for
several
years.

So far I have browsed all of the first chapter "The Key Components for
Modeling an Internetwork"

This chapter covers in good detail all those basic questions - the
config
register, configuring a router as a frame switch, password recovery,
show
and debug ( called "the big show" and "the big d" respectively,
throughout
the book. ) building a terminal server, and much much more. This alone
tells
me that this book might be a good investment for those just starting
out, as
well as those prepping for the CCIE Lab. Sure, all of this information
is
available elsewhere, but with this book, it is in one place, easily
located,
and clearly explained.

There is even a section about configuring networking on windoze
computers.
Considering the number of raw beginners who are coming into the
certification process, this is helpful.

I'll have more comments after I have had a chance to look at the
"good"
stuff.

Chuck




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