Priscilla, You are correct. Thanks for the added insight. Nigel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" To: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: Re: multicast / CGMP towards the multicast server [7:33964] > No offence, but that answer doesn't remove the quandary. The entire switch > is a segment from the router's point of view. The router receives the IGMP > Join and now knows that packets for that multicast group must be sent out > that interface to that Ethernet segment. All devices on the switch are out > that interface, however. > > What Fears fears is that the router won't be smart enough to tell the > switch that not all devices connected to the switch should receive the > multicast stream. > > But fear not, Fears. CGMP is smarter than you might think. Here's how I > understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong, please (anyone). > > As you know, when a host wants to join an IP multicast group, it sends an > IGMP Join message. The Join specifies the host's MAC address and the IP > multicast group that it wants to join. > > When a router receives the IGMP Join, it creates a CGMP message that > contains the MAC address of the host and the multicast group address. The > router sends the CGMP message to a well-known address that all switches > listen to. When a Catalyst switch receives the CGMP message from the > router, the supervisor engine responds by modifying the forwarding table > automatically. In other words, it now knows the specific port that must > receive the multicast stream. Other hosts on different ports may Join also, > and the switch will add them to the table. > > This is different from IGMP Snooping, by the way. From what I understand, > IGMP Snooping allows the switch to proactively snoop into IGMP packets and > figure out which ones are Joins. IGMP Snooping requires more powerful (and > more expensive) switching hardware (firmware). > > Priscilla > > At 10:18 PM 1/31/02, Nigel Taylor wrote: > >Michael, > > Of course this would depend on if the multicast server and the > >host connected on the same switch was assigned to the same vlan(broadcast > >domain). Just some quick points to mention.. > > > >Routers by default will not forward multicast traffic. However, if you > >enabled a multicast routing protocol(PIM, DVMRP) then this is possible. The > >important thing here is that IGMP is used by hosts to inform routers of > >their intent to become part of a multicast stream. This depends on your > >implementation of the multicast protocol. IGMPv2 has been improved to > >support leaves from a multicast group which is not supported in IGMPv1. > >This way the host is able to notify the source of it's intent to leave the > >multicast group. This is will allow the routers to prune the multicast > >traffic from the segment removing the unnecessary traffic, providing no > >other host on the segment remains a member of the multicast stream > > > >A good title as recommended by a number of folks on the list is Developing > >IP Multicast Networks > >Author: Beau Williamson. ISBN: 157870779 > > > >HTH > > > >Nigel > > > > > > > >---- Original Message ----- > >From: "Fears Michael S SSgt 50 CS/SCBBN" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:59 PM > >Subject: multicast / CGMP towards the multicast server [7:33964] > > > > > > > If a multicast server is connected to a Cisco Switch running CGMP, and > > > several hosts are connected to the same switch, will a router turn off > the > > > switch ports for the users that are not requesting the multicast? > > > > > > So, will CGMP work back towards the multicast server? > > > > > > Fears > ________________________ > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34159&t=33964 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]